Is it necessary to run a PCT after a cycle of Winstrol

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    Is it necessary to run a PCT after a cycle of Winstrol


    sorry if this is a stupid question, I have read several good threads on PCT by "thesinner" but not sure if his advice applies to winny, thanks for any advice/info

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    I would definately consider it a good idea.
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    what kinds specifically would you recommend i.e. liver support, estrogen blockers, all of the above. The reason I ask is that I have read that Winny has very few side effects.
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    Little help guys, any info or recommendations on what kind of PCT I need to run after a cycle of Winstrol would be greatly appreciated
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    are you on the cycle right now?
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    is this a winny only cycle?

    PCT is something you always do... but maybe a SERM wouldn't be necessary.
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    yes im curretly on i just started monday, and yes it is a winny only cycle, Not trying to bulk up or compete just cutting some weight and trying to gain maintanable results, what do you guys think???
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    is this a winny only cycle?

    PCT is something you always do... but maybe a SERM wouldn't be necessary.
    What other way do you propose we provide HPTA stimulation for upregulation?
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    what kind winn do u have? the orals are def going to be harsh on your liver same thing if your using the depot(water based) and sQuirting in your mouth. but if you have already started any liver supps arent gonna do you a whole lot of good. for pct dont be dumb, run a full pct. use clomid at least, but i prefer a clomid and nolva run for my pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    what kind winn do u have? the orals are def going to be harsh on your liver same thing if your using the depot(water based) and sQuirting in your mouth. but if you have already started any liver supps arent gonna do you a whole lot of good. for pct dont be dumb, run a full pct. use clomid at least, but i prefer a clomid and nolva run for my pct.
    I hope this is a joke. Winny is metabolized in the liver, regardless of route of administration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    I hope this is a joke. Winny is metabolized in the liver, regardless of route of administration.

    The only advantage to shooting it is time realease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    I hope this is a joke. Winny is metabolized in the liver, regardless of route of administration.

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    im using water based injections 50 mg every other day, what exactly is clomid?????? and can you be more specific on running a "full pct"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    I hope this is a joke. Winny is metabolized in the liver, regardless of route of administration.
    yes it is metabolized in the liver regardless, but oral administration is proven to be harsher on your liver. so no its not a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtrain84 View Post
    im using water based injections 50 mg every other day, what exactly is clomid?????? and can you be more specific on running a "full pct"
    by full pct i mean using a serm ie..clomid, nolva, toremifene etc... And clomid is a serm that will actually stimulate LH function to bounce your boys back after your cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    yes it is metabolized in the liver regardless, but oral administration is proven to be harsher on your liver. so no its not a joke.

    Can you show me where it is proven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    yes it is metabolized in the liver regardless, but oral administration is proven to be harsher on your liver. so no its not a joke.
    No, it's not PROVEN to be harsher. That is dependent upon dosing schedule, and even then it is only a theory and not PROVEN. The ONLY difference that is proven is that injecting gives a higher blood serum level than oral administration.
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    50mg/eod isn't the best. It should be injected everyday, and probably 50mg/day would be best, how long are you running it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkkon1 View Post
    50mg/eod isn't the best. It should be injected everyday, and probably 50mg/day would be best, how long are you running it?

    according to upjohn, a single injection of winstrol depot keeps blood levels stable for about a week. The lesser quality winstrol depots may be different, but i see no problem shooting eod, or even ever 3rd day as long as the dosages are the same. I doubt that you would want to be taking weekly shots of 350mg, and they are probably being a little generous with their numbers but that is what they said not me. I tried to find the same info from the zambon website but was not able to read it as it was in spanish. I forgot where i read the upjohn info, it was from a very realible person, but i honestly don't remember, it was not at the upjohn site. Unless someone has blood test info i am going to continue to use that as my point of reference.
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    I just dug up an old post on another board, and the info came from Bill Roberts regarding upjohns aquous winny v. Apparently i was told by someone that zambon stated the same thing.
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