Parabolan & Test Enath Cyle
- 07-03-2008, 04:32 AM
- 07-03-2008, 08:44 AM
I think 250mg test per week is just enough to replace what your body normally makes. All it will do is shut you down. I'd up it to 500mg per week. That is a very good starting dose. If you are gyno prone keep a good SERM on hand and you should be fine. 500mg/week really shouldn't cause gyno issues.
- 07-03-2008, 08:46 AM
The average dose of HRT is around 100mg a week. I could make pretty decent gains off 250mg a week alone. Now that being said, if you are going to run it, you might as well up it a little. 400mg is OK, where are people getting real para from these days. Meaning what brand is it.
07-03-2008, 11:05 AM
Your going to be shut down anyway from the 250mg of test, but especially from the 19-nor parabolan. So why not up the test and get some nice gains from that as well as the tren. Unless your going for more of a cut, or a cycle with no bloat in which case i'd understand that the dose is just enough to keep the libido, and energy up.
07-03-2008, 11:27 AM
A typical male makes about 60mg of test per week. So 250mg is still 4 times natural production. If the guy is already seeing results on 250mg - why do more? If anything ramp it up later in the cycle.
07-03-2008, 11:33 AM
You are not taking into account the weight of the Enth ester. So 250mg of Test E per week is only about 150mg of actual test. Not even close to 4x your body's production. (I'm probably off a little bit on the weight)
Ramping up later in the cycle is possible, but it still takes 3 weeks for that ramp up to kick in fully.
07-03-2008, 11:35 AM
Stupes - I'd say that the results are in major part due to the tren he's using. 230mg of tren will work wonders, but 250mg will not. Not that it won't have any effect, but i suspect that he's not using it to get maximum gains but to boost his libido, and avoid lethargy.
07-03-2008, 11:36 AM
07-03-2008, 11:42 AM
The normal range of a male is 300-900 (i forgot the measurement) So the average male makes a varied amount. 60mgs is a completely unveriable number that tells very little. Most HRT docs will adjust dosing accordingly to get their client in the range they would like them to be in.
07-03-2008, 11:59 AM
07-03-2008, 01:02 PM
07-03-2008, 02:37 PM
07-03-2008, 02:40 PM
Thanks for your replies guys and as some of you said I m using the 250mg test to keep up the natural test and focus on Parabolan.
The Parabolan I am using is no fake and is pharmaceutical. I m thinking to add some Winstrol beacuse my aim is cutting while keeping my muscle and go down from 13% bodyfat to 9-10%
07-03-2008, 02:41 PM
07-03-2008, 03:41 PM
Thats what i figured, tren is cool stuff, it's pretty much the only AAS which in and of itself has the ability to lower BF. Winny wouldn't be a bad addition, though i think you could just up the test to 350-400mg/wk and keep the cals low, and you wouldn't bloat. That drop in BF% from 13% to 9% is gonna look dramatic man, right around there is when you notice the most difference. Congrats on getting real parabolan, I had to settle for plain Tren-A, not all of us are as resourcefull as you .
07-03-2008, 05:43 PM
btw, dont forget the HHB carbonate ester in tren that takes up ~35%, lowering the actual tren base amount. had to throw that in there good luck bro, keep us updated.
07-03-2008, 09:18 PM
07-03-2008, 09:20 PM
The only problem with this is that 200mg of test for me and 200mg of test for you is going to cause different rises in blood concentrations. Quality of product is also a factor. I had a doctor tell me his patients bloodwork got better when he switched from a compounding pharmacy to upjohn, dose being the same.
07-04-2008, 12:22 AM
Later today I will post you a pic of the Parabolan I got. A guy I know got me enough for a 10 week cycle directly from France which comes in vials.
I'm falling in love with this compound because it s toning me up perfectly. I thought about T3 but last time I used I lost a lot of muscle but I was on 400 Equipose / 250mg Sust.
07-04-2008, 10:52 AM
Para was made by Negma France and discontinued some time around 97-98. I have never seen any, or heard of any real stuff even when i first started on the message boards around 2000. Their were a few undergrounds who made it a while back, but not in amps. I am also pretty sure it is not produced by anyone anymore (can't be certain, not as up to date as i used to be) I beleive a outfit out of Thailand was making the amps about 4-5 years ago, but i think they tested out just being tren enanthate. If your vials say NEGMA on them, they are fake. Not saying their is nothing in them, most of the deca amps coming in this country that have been tested are fake, and have about 75-100mg of test cyp in them.
07-04-2008, 11:40 AM
07-04-2008, 11:51 AM
07-05-2008, 12:21 AM
No it doesn't say Negma...just Parabolan and other specifications and that is produced in France etc.
I don't think it s a fake but it doesn't make that difference for me because I take a shot every 5 days so if it's tren enathate I'm going quite safe.
What do you think if I add some T3 to this cycle instead of EC stack ???
07-05-2008, 10:55 PM
07-06-2008, 12:18 AM
i believe Negma was the first to bring parabolan to the market but you wont find of Negma's parabolan anymore. there are many good UGL labs, just have to trust your source or do some homebrewing
07-06-2008, 05:45 AM
What dosage of T3 do you suggest to this cycle ?
07-06-2008, 05:56 PM
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