New Ergopharm 1-AD is now available!!!!!

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    New Ergopharm 1-AD is now available!!!!!


    Does anybody plan on trying this?

    Do you think it will hold a candle to the original?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy884 View Post
    Does anybody plan on trying this?

    Do you think it will hold a candle to the original?
    Because of the conversion it won't be the same as the original, but if it's anything close it should be quite welcome. I'm no expert on this stuff, but I'm looking forward to seeing the user reviews. I don't plan on doing PH's for a long time though, I just appreciate the science behind it and their effectiveness. Stuff is pricy through Ergopharm's direct release to say the least.
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    Not at $80 a bottle. Even their suggested cycle of 3/6/6/3 would need 3 bottles. Ouch.

    Very interested in seeing the reviews though, so maybe later in the year i would give it a shot once it became more readily available and cheaper.
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    $80 a bottle is too much... Which I said this about 3AD, too (even at Nutra's $55 tag).
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    at $80/bottle, it wouldn't be worth it unless it DID yield the same results as the original.
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    Anabolic Xtreme is trying to recover R&D costs with 3-AD which seems to be getting poor reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Anabolic Xtreme is trying to recover R&D costs with 3-AD which seems to be getting poor reviews.
    I'm not surprised at all... I figured SDNG would have buried them.
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    Yea I'm plan on using it, ordered three bottles of it at midnight. Im going to be using some other stuff too with it thou.....
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    good luck 04svtspray!!!! let us know how it goes.

    i think i'll wait until i hear some feedback from users.

    a drop in price won't hurt either.

    either way, i got plenty of time - i'm wrapping up a successful epistane cycle anyways.
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    PA said that after the olympics it is going to be released to a lot of the mainstream e-tailers. I'll save my money, watch for peoples results with this limited run and then maybe just wait buy some for cheaper in Sep/Oct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    I'm not surprised at all... I figured SDNG would have buried them.

    All their stuff is junk now. Hyperdrol is OK. The rest is garbage.
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    If this stuff is the real deal, wouldn't we just be able to wait a few months and buy clones for half the price? Seems like any successful PH spawns about a half dozen clones sooner or later.
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    From what I understand, part of Ergopharm's marketing of this is that it is what AMS 1-AD was supposed to be, only more pure. According to PA, AMS 1-AD did not test out to be 100% pure.

    So technically, Ergo 1-AD is somewhat of a clone itself...
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    That's AMS's fault though. They should have quality control tested their products. If I were them I'd be tremendously embarassed to have another competitor calling out my product as junk when AMS should have done some quality control tests beforehand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    That's AMS's fault though. They should have quality control tested their products. If I were them I'd be tremendously embarassed to have another competitor calling out my product as junk when AMS should have done some quality control tests beforehand.
    I still question the accuracy, PA's timing on that seems a bit convenient right before he was going to release his own clone of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeC View Post
    Not at $80 a bottle. Even their suggested cycle of 3/6/6/3 would need 3 bottles. Ouch.

    Very interested in seeing the reviews though, so maybe later in the year i would give it a shot once it became more readily available and cheaper.
    hmm i'm not getting that same math. 3x7=21 6x7=42

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    126, so if you clip 2 days off the last week, 2 bottles would do it. still i'd imagine you'd be hard pressed to get 5lbs from this, for the $160 of 2 bottles
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I still question the accuracy, PA's timing on that seems a bit convenient right before he was going to release his own clone of it


    For the record, AMS's stuff was bunk for awhile. PA just decided to capitalize on their screw-ups. Business is business. There's nothing wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    hmm i'm not getting that same math. 3x7=21 6x7=42

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    126, so if you clip 2 days off the last week, 2 bottles would do it. still i'd imagine you'd be hard pressed to get 5lbs from this, for the $160 of 2 bottles
    True, but now you're under 4 weeks. I never got to try the original, was this a typical cycle for it, 4 weeks and tapering down?
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    actually if you do a normal steroid ramp, you'd take 1 day 1, 2 day 2 and start 3 on day 3. so that would leave one off the end. I think this was typical for how it was recommended to run, but a lot of people ran it as long as 6 weeks with 600 the whole time
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    If this stuff is the real deal, wouldn't we just be able to wait a few months and buy clones for half the price? Seems like any successful PH spawns about a half dozen clones sooner or later.

    Apparently its really hard and very expensive to make this compound pure. Hence why AMS stuff was bunk. PA says he was working on this before AMS came out with it I think, may be wrong though. I think if the clones do come out the chances are they will be bunk like AMS stuff.

    He also said the price will drop after the olympics. Problem with importing the raws atm
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnick7 View Post
    Apparently its really hard and very expensive to make this compound pure. Hence why AMS stuff was bunk. PA says he was working on this before AMS came out with it I think, may be wrong though. I think if the clones do come out the chances are they will be bunk like AMS stuff.

    He also said the price will drop after the olympics. Problem with importing the raws atm
    That would be the ONLY way i'd touch it, and I wouldnt anyway honestly...

    But at over 200 bucks, i'd rather go str8 needle.

    All their stuff is junk now. Hyperdrol is OK. The rest is garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    I'm not surprised at all... I figured SDNG would have buried them.

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