halodrol cycle *first cycle*
- 06-18-2008, 12:47 AM
halodrol cycle *first cycle*
Okay, I have decided to take my first real plunge lol.
I currently am unemployed so I have nothing to do but eat, sleep, and lift. So I decided I am going to take halo. I am skipping the intro story...
basically a few questions.
CEL H-Drol 50 mg Weeks 1-2
then 75 mg Weeks 3-5.
AI Cycle Support 2 Scoops Daily 2 weeks prior through PCT.
Is this good enough PCT? I know many people say a SERM is not needed, but some say it is. Would it be a best bet to just use a SERM only? Or say multiple OTC products.
Since I am unemployed atm I am not trying to be cheap but just as cost effective as possible.
I typed this up on the run so if I left out anything important feel free to ask. Thanks.
- 06-18-2008, 02:13 AM
That looks solid man, but what's your weight? Funk that noise about a SERM being overkill, you'd be spending the same on the SERM as you would with multiple OTC supps.
Do you plan on using a cortisol control supp? You're going to like weeks 4-5.
- 06-18-2008, 08:19 AM
I've been talking with Pembroke.
I was going to run another hdrol cycle just after the 4th of July. First one did not go well and I had to stop two weeks in.
I am running cycel support one week prior to hdrol and through the cycle.
Then Post Cycle support for a month directly after stop of cycle.
Lean xtreme starting the beginning of third week of PCT.
I have only 30 caps of 20mg nolva on hand. IN CASE. But it is not enough for pct for me.
06-18-2008, 09:46 AM
I would recommend a SERM for other compounds but not for H-Drol (but what do I know, i'm only a CEL rep). IMO There are PLENTY of good OTC options. If I was going to run a SERM for an H-Drol cycle it sure as heck wouldn't be Nolva. I would run Clomid at lower doses for 3-4 weeks,
IMO, cortisol control isn't crucial, especially considering your financial status at the moment.
GL, PM me with any H-Drol specifics not addressed here.
06-18-2008, 10:29 AM
I agree about the clomid. From a recovery standpoint clomid always seemed more effective. When nolva all the sudden became the new trend with recovery about 6 years ago more people were having problems after running PCT. From a real world standpoint most people i know preferred clomid. Since basically no one gets blood work done after PCT i that is the best info i have to go on. One study i read a few years ago showed that total testosterone increased during the duration of 100mg clomid daily for 6 weeks only to plummet when clomid was stopped. With some of these new test boosters available today, i would probably run clomid for 100mg for 3 weeks after any cycle, longer if it was something like tren or deca, followed by something like the diesel test hardcore product. I have actually heard from a friend on the boards he got his total test up with that product over a period of time. Sounds like a very good supp to run in between cycles. These are just some thoughts i have had recently.
06-18-2008, 10:53 AM
06-18-2008, 11:00 AM
06-18-2008, 11:04 AM
06-18-2008, 11:08 AM
06-18-2008, 11:08 AM
Alright thanks for the input.
I was only suggesting Nolva because I have a friend who is selling a bottle. I also have taken advice from 'broscience' thats why my dosing was listed like that lol.
I also have an unopened bottle of Novedex. Would using Novedex and LX be sufficient PCT? Or should I throw some sort of test booster in there too.
06-18-2008, 11:13 AM
Days 1-10: 3 caps at bedtime
Days 11-20: 2 caps at bedtime
Days 21-30: 1 cap at bedtime
Introduce LX at either the 11 day mark(its easier to remember things that way if using the aforementioned dosing protocol)or at the two week mark into PCT.
07-01-2008, 06:11 PM
It is day 10 of my cycle.
Now this could be completely placebo, but I figured I would ask. No weight change as of yet..Today in the gym I just felt different. I was doing my normal back workout and while doing wide lat pulldowns and dumbbells rows I really felt it in my lats. Much more of a mind-muscle connection than I ever get with my back since I am usually very arm dominant in these exercises.
Also I was I was sweating like an absolute pig for the past two days even though the temperature here has remained mostly constant. I have also noticed I have gotten a 'hot' face the past two workouts.
Is this the H-drol? Or am I just so anxious I am looking for anything lol
07-01-2008, 09:39 PM
07-01-2008, 10:32 PM
07-02-2008, 04:15 AM
Now if you want to go ahead and experiment, by all means. I have done a successful 6 week H-drol cycle and used Nolva dosed at your typical Superdrol recs. I'm fine, retained my gains and strength. PCT was good. I used Cortistat PS for cort control, and I didn't have anything to complain about.
Now my buddy used 6-oxo and some natty OTC sh*t. Not PCS, but my buddy got a lump behind his nipple after the same 6 week cycle.
So funk all that OTC noise, I like my nipples and retaining my gains. I like my shrunken nuts through my cycle, it tells me something is definitely going on, and I absolutely like when my nuts recover when I use a SERM for PCT. SERM camp only here.
07-02-2008, 08:29 AM
07-02-2008, 08:44 AM
from what I read, you can get away with AI PCT and Lean Xtreme two weeks into your PCT. That should be enough. I am going 5 weeks and that is my PCT. I have nolva at home, but I anticipate not using it
07-02-2008, 09:16 AM
BTW did you just use nolva and the anti-cort, no AI or anything else?
07-02-2008, 08:52 PM
What can I say, after I had done that cycle, I love CEL But personally A SERM worked greatly so why spend more time and money on OTC products? Not for me.
Many people say that you don't get shutdown on H-drol, well I had some great results and got shutdown along the ride.
07-02-2008, 09:12 PM
And as far as PCT goes, you could find evidence to go in any direction you want. Im sure theres somebody out there that used Nitro-Tech as PCT for a 30mg Superdrol cycle and was just fine.
But i would rather be safe(SERM) than sorry.
07-03-2008, 08:12 AM
07-03-2008, 08:15 AM
07-03-2008, 08:16 AM
07-03-2008, 08:18 AM
EDIT: This one just came in the other day, I pasted it right outa my CEL inbox
May I ask help in creating a schedule for the following supplements that I have ordered? I take full responsibility ofr what I have purchased and will take full responsibility for its effect on my health. Any suggested cycle will be taken at face value and no blame passed on if it does nt react well with my body.
I ordered a bottle of MDrol, HDrol and PPlex.
I plan on running PPlex for 4 weeks straight, adding MDrol on week 3 - 6 and HDrol on week 5 - 8.
Thoughts and or possible scenerios.
My goal is to grow in size and strength.
Oh yes, he did tell me he was going to use Inhibit-E for his 8 week methyl cycle.. lol who says repping is easy.
07-03-2008, 08:26 AM
07-03-2008, 08:27 AM
07-03-2008, 08:40 AM
07-03-2008, 08:44 AM
07-03-2008, 10:39 AM
Not jacking your thread, but just need some friendly advice and I know others are watching. Rather post here than starting something else.......
I am running hdrol 50/50/75/75/75...first time.
Cycle support and multivitamin and Anabolic pump through cycle and 2 weeks into PCT
PCT is AI Stoked and two weeks in Lean Xtreme.
is that sufficient for pct....thanks
07-03-2008, 01:19 PM
That made my stomach turn. I suppose if you have no idea whats going on you could make that stack. But you would guess that at some point you would at least search for some reviews on those products, and get at least an off hand reference to PCT.
I mean when i first started out i even researched my protein powder!
07-03-2008, 02:13 PM
Seriously I get the bad ones over email I think b/c they are afraid of flaming on the boards.
07-03-2008, 02:20 PM
07-03-2008, 05:12 PM
07-04-2008, 01:56 PM
07-04-2008, 01:57 PM
Although doctors are almost always idealists...
Anyways, I want to start a thread and just post the RIDICULOUS emails I get.. lol I am gonna start saving them. Everyone needs a laugh.
07-26-2008, 11:14 PM
PCT starts tomorrow..
I didn't really notice any significant boosts beyond what I would normally accomplish. I did notice some joint aches but other than that nothing really out of the ordinary...I am a bit disappointed but I guess you live and you learn...maybe I will try something a little more 'hardcore' in the future.
07-27-2008, 11:48 PM
07-28-2008, 01:05 AM
Good suggestions guys.
Personally my first cycle was h-drol and I gained about 10lbs and kept 8 with an otc pct.
I believe i used AI pct, Retain, alpha drive, and something that had creatine and chrysin (sp?) in the same capsule... oh and also trione @ 500/300/100/100eod.
My next cycle i def am going to used something better than glucosamine sulfate for joint support. (Overtrained a bit and some shoulder pain at end of cycle)
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