Help me pick my next step

[Brolic]

I plan to run aug1st. about 4 weeks before school starts. i want a short and quick cycle. any thing over 5pds with lil pct is my goal.

-how could i do this SD?

 

[delsolrob]

if you're looking for a mild quick cycle to get an extra 5 pounds with min PCT...you could probably get by with a 4 week pulse of Epi or SD.

what's your experience, weight, etc?

 

[Brolic]

i ran hdrol for 6weeks at hi dosages 75-125mg.. im 220 now


what min pct/

 

[A_I_Sports_Nutrition]

I plan to run aug1st. about 4 weeks before school starts. i want a short and quick cycle. any thing over 5pds with lil pct is my goal.

-how could i do this SD?

Run h-drol but go 5 weeks just run cycle support during the cycle pre-load it 10-15 days before. I jusy recently ran it at 75/75/75/75/75 and ran Post Cyle Support and Lean Xtreme for pct and my bloodwork came back ok. Anything less than that for a pct(unless you doing a pulse but I do not think a 4 week pluse will get you what your looking for)would not be wise to cut down more than this on pct.:dance:

 

[LatsRus]

id say sd 3 weeks at 20/20/20 but ud need a serm, and if ur lookn for minimal pct, then NM! buuuuuuuuuut for as little pct as possible your probably lookn at a pulse with epi/havoc and ull put on some lean mass and harden up nicely.

 

[Brolic]

when i said min pct. i meant cheaper than 300bucsl.. i spend around 300 on pct for hdrol( lean ext, cs,pc,oxo,nolva)..

but also this will be my LAST PH run EVER.. i wanta move up the real deal in the spring and summer of 09.. bc i will bulking till june 09, then i start to cut for the golds classic in nov. i would like to run twice b4 the show..

 

[tnick7]

3 weeks of SD run at 10/10/10 or 10/10/20. Should keep the sides at bay (does for most).

For PCT with SD you need a SERM, but dont need as much as you had for hdrol, lol that PCT was overkil IMO

 

[mathis50262]

when i said min pct. i meant cheaper than 300bucsl.. i spend around 300 on pct for hdrol( lean ext, cs,pc,oxo,nolva)..

but also this will be my LAST PH run EVER.. i wanta move up the real deal in the spring and summer of 09.. bc i will bulking till june 09, then i start to cut for the golds classic in nov. i would like to run twice b4 the show..

Dude just get some Nolva, cheap, Natty Test Booster, cheap, and some DHEA,cheap.

 

[Brolic]

3 weeks of SD run at 10/10/10 or 10/10/20. Should keep the sides at bay (does for most).

For PCT with SD you need a SERM, but dont need as much as you had for hdrol, lol that PCT was overkil IMO

my goal is 5pd kepted after pct and 200$ spend on pct

 

[dkkon1]

I never spend more than $50 on pct (nolva,dhea,trib) more is not always better.

 

[tnick7]

my goal is 5pd kepted after pct and 200$ spend on pct

thats definitely achievable at 10/10/10 on SD, bump it to 20 in the third week if necessary, and a PCT for this cycle will cost you $50 for a cheaper PCT and $100 for a crazy one. IMO this cycle can be done all in for $100

 

[Brolic]

only 100 whoa.. CS is 41bucks

 

[tnick7]

only 100 whoa.. CS is 41bucks

Well if you pick up everything in bulk powder separately sure you could. If not $40 CS, $30 m-drol, $50 PCt = $120

 

[pistonpump]

id say 4 weeks.
1- sd 10 epi 20
2- sd 20 epi 20
3- epi 40
4- epi 40

 

[LatsRus]

jeez, guys i never even use a test booster or dhea for my pct. just straight up nolva works like a charm every time. thats 50 or 60 for that ordered online but thats all u need for pct in my book.

 

[ReaperX]

How much did you gain/keep after H-Drol and PCT ?

 

[Brolic]

How much did you gain/keep after H-Drol and PCT ?

i started at 203 and got up to 218 and when down to 213 and a few weeks after pct im at 220.. so that 203-220 in less than 5 months..CRAZY

 

[ReaperX]

i started at 203 and got up to 218 and when down to 213 and a few weeks after pct im at 220.. so that 203-220 in less than 5 months..CRAZY

That's a pretty good gain. Awesome!

 

[dkkon1]

jeez, guys i never even use a test booster or dhea for my pct. just straight up nolva works like a charm every time. thats 50 or 60 for that ordered online but thats all u need for pct in my book.

I pretty much agree man, I spend $35 on 1200mg of Nolvadex, and that should last 1.5-2 PCT's. Dhea, Trib is just a nice bonus, definately not necessary.

 

[Brolic]

I thinking im going to X out SD abd run Epistane, isnt epistane stronger than havoc

 

[ReaperX]

I thinking im going to X out SD abd run Epistane, isnt epistane stronger than havoc

Same stuff playa.

 

[rabican]

why not run another hdrol cycle but lower dose and shorter?

Cycle: 50mg of hdrol for 4 weeks + cycle support + creatine
PCT: PCS + test booster (trib) + i3c + cycle support + creatine

...it should come out to around 150$

 

[Brolic]

Same stuff playa.

its not the same copound.



i dont want run hdrol solo

 

[ReaperX]

its not the same copound.



i dont want run hdrol solo

Epistane=Havoc.


Unless you get the 'limited time offer' of the Epistane+Tren. (Tren is complimentary).

 

[Brolic]

reaper- hit me on AIM


MR HOLLIDAE

 

[Brolic]

i will polly run epi and my pct will be pct budget is 250

nolva 40x3-30/20/20/10/5x3
CS-2/2/2/2... i mite have to cap this.
PCS-6/6/4/4
oxo-600/300/200/100
lean ext-3/3/3/3
* i didnt run a test booster on my last cycle, buti kind of want to, should i?
* can you bridge a test booster into a run, like 4-6weeks of disel test or AX then do havoc run?

 

[ReaperX]

Brolic-


Vote on my thread please.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/poll-905-gerald-butler-movie.html

 

[pistonpump]

i will polly run epi and my pct will be pct budget is 250

nolva 40x3-30/20/20/10/5x3
CS-2/2/2/2... i mite have to cap this.
PCS-6/6/4/4
oxo-600/300/200/100
lean ext-3/3/3/3
* i didnt run a test booster on my last cycle, buti kind of want to, should i?
* can you bridge a test booster into a run, like 4-6weeks of disel test or AX then do havoc run?

imo you could have cut costs down by not using oxo, pcs, lxt... use a cheaper ai...relora or vitc for cort.....

 

[Brolic]

cheaper isnt safe

 

[rabican]

were you the one talking about cutting costs?

 

[tnick7]

imo you could have cut costs down by not using oxo, pcs, lxt... use a cheaper ai...relora or vitc for cort.....

x2 or even just nolva, epi's mild bra

 

[pistonpump]

x2 or even just nolva, epi's mild bra

oh, he decided on epi??? in that case even more so, it is very mild BRAH! haha

 

[Brolic]

DO u think epi has more of a kick then hdrol

 

[mathis50262]

DO u think epi has more of a kick then hdrol

I'm no xpert on cycles, but I ran a Clorodrol-50 (H-Drol clone) and it comes no where to my Epi cycle! I'm 4 days in and my streinght is up, alonon with a lil alpha male!!Lovin it!

 

[tnick7]

DO u think epi has more of a kick then hdrol

Depends on the user. Most people will say yes. I personally ran epi with furazadrol and found it extremely mild and completely worthless under 40mg, but everyone reacts differently. I ran it four 4 weeks if I did it again I would do it 5 weeks @ 40mg.

 

[tnick7]

I'm no xpert on cycles, but I ran a Clorodrol-50 (H-Drol clone) and it comes no where to my Epi cycle! I'm 4 days in and my streinght is up, alone with a lil alpha male!!Lovin it!

4 days...prob just placebo effect, alpha male possibly not but I would say 4 days of epi the strength gains arent related. When I ran it the strength came end of the 3rd week, and was also mild for strength

 

[mathis50262]

4 days...prob just placebo effect, alpha male possibly not but I would say 4 days of epi the strength gains arent related. When I ran it the strength came end of the 3rd week, and was also mild for strength

Well mabye I'm something special, but I can tell you I'm not going to rate my cycle off of yours. Just like you said, everyone reacts different. I set myself a pretty solid foundation last week my last set of 8 on everything were failed around 6, now I'm blasting through all sets with 5 more lbs. Don't think it's my Wheaties.

 

[Brolic]

did yall doase epi by weight. i was told if ur under 200pd that 50mg of hdrol is underdosed, so i ran it at 75 75 100 100 125

 

[mathis50262]

did yall doase epi by weight. i was told if ur under 200pd that 50mg of hdrol is underdosed, so i ran it at 75 75 100 100 125

I'm 181 and I'm dosing it 20/30/30/40. Three reasons:
1- It's only my second cycle, so with that dose I should yeild some good results
2-Most review have had good results with ratio
3-I works out most effictivly with there being 90 caps per bottle.

 

[tnick7]

did yall doase epi by weight. i was told if ur under 200pd that 50mg of hdrol is underdosed, so i ran it at 75 75 100 100 125

Im around 205 I did it 30/30/30/40 with furaz 200-250mg. Didn't notice too much at 30mg, noticed a bit at 40mg. If i did it again I eould run it 40-50mg for 5 weeks tbh

 

[pistonpump]

I'm no xpert on cycles, but I ran a Clorodrol-50 (H-Drol clone) and it comes no where to my Epi cycle! I'm 4 days in and my streinght is up, alonon with a lil alpha male!!Lovin it!

wait, so the epi cycle is better? your post didnt really clarify which compound is better and what one you are on now lol.

 

[mathis50262]

wait, so the epi cycle is better? your post didnt really clarify which compound is better and what one you are on now lol.

Sorry Piston... Thus far I'm thinking Epi... Check my log BRAH.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/96549-my-2nd-cycle.html

 

[Brolic]

i'm goin to run epi high, im goin to start at 30 and depending on how i feel, up the dose.. when does epi kick in, hdrol took 3 weeks

week5-4PSC,2cs,600oxo,3AX
week6-4psc,2cs,300oxo,3AX
week7-4psc,2cs,200oxo,3AX
week8-4psc, 100oxo,2AX
week9-



fyi- i want to dose everything so i ONLY use ONE bottle of everything

 

[tnick7]

i'm goin to run epi high, im goin to start at 30 and depending on how i feel, up the dose.. when does epi kick in, hdrol took 3 weeks

week5-4PSC,2cs,600oxo,3AX
week6-4psc,2cs,300oxo,3AX
week7-4psc,2cs,200oxo,3AX
week8-4psc, 100oxo,2AX
week9-



fyi- i want to dose everything so i ONLY use ONE bottle of everything

IMO save your money, nolva + natty test booster will be a better and cheaper PCT. If you're dosing epi high (as in above 40mg) I would advise using a SERM in PCT. Seems 40mg+ is where people start to get noticeably shutdown. For me epi eased in, over week 3 and early week 4. IMO run it 5 weeks 30-40mg

 

[Brolic]

u tryin to kill me

 

[Brolic]

i was goofing around and on NP and priced out a PCT for 269shipped

2-epi
2-CS
1-AX
1-pcs
1-cre kilo
1-tar kilo

 

[pistonpump]

i was goofing around and on NP and priced out a PCT for 269shipped

2-epi
2-CS
1-AX
1-pcs
1-cre kilo
1-tar kilo

what is

1- AX?

 

[Brolic]

activate xtreme

 

[ReaperX]

i don't understand taking creatine while on cycle. you will be strong regardless because you are taking steroids.

 

[pistonpump]

AX is a test booster by DS

never heard of it.... it would probably help if someone asked what AX was that you actually say what the name is....ha, duh.