Am I the only one who slightly enjoys seeing unready ppl lose their gains duing PCT
- 06-08-2008, 11:37 AM
Am I the only one who slightly enjoys seeing unready ppl lose their gains duing PCT
There are some people at my gym who couldn't be any further away from being ready to go on a cycle, but inevitably they end up using something like D-bol or even some Test and they blow up quick. And they can't wait to flaunt their results coming in to the gym as scantly clad as possible. But the more and more I see them I always notice them getting smaller and softer, and I get a bit of a giggle out of it.
- 06-08-2008, 11:40 AM
- 06-08-2008, 11:48 AM
06-08-2008, 11:49 AM
06-08-2008, 01:42 PM
There's a guy at my gym that must be on A-bombs like half the year, b/c he'll be growing like crazy for like 6 weeks, and then for the next month or 2 he'll fricken deflate, then he blows up again. You've gotta wonder what the fricking point of that is???? I think the people looking for shortcuts just jump on some d-bol and "get HUGE" then after they're cycle they just go back to their same old crappy diet/Gym regiment.
06-08-2008, 01:53 PM
i was out of the gym for 3 months cause of surgery and lost 30lbs.....when i got back in the gym ppl kinda did a double-take.....i definitely got those "he was on something and hes off now" looks....o well
06-08-2008, 02:07 PM
06-08-2008, 02:43 PM
A friend of mine does plenty of designer cycles. I don't discuss my cycling with him because he doesn't have the same knowledge or seriousness with it comes to the issue that I do. However, I do find it fun to watch him get huge for a month or two and then shrink back down to nothing and then repeat. Inflate, deflate, inflate, deflate.
06-08-2008, 02:50 PM
06-08-2008, 03:08 PM
I would try to help them, if they'd admit to juicing. I'm on my first test cycle, and if a knowledgeable steroid user sees me losing my gains, I would hope he steps in with some friendly advise. I mean in all honesty, I do my research, and try my best to learn. In my experiences so far though, no matter how much you read, there's always some forgotten question I should have thought of. When it comes to diet, training, and supplementation, there's always some small detail I didn't think to ask about or read up on during last weeks research/study sessions, etc. A fool deserves the outcomes of his follies, yes, but in the case of steroids, where people can do real harm to themselves that they may regret for a lifetime, I prefer to be helpful whenever I can. Now, if they become rude, egotistical, or stubborn to the point of deliberate ignorance, then fine, I may just consider them entertainment.
06-08-2008, 03:18 PM
06-08-2008, 04:15 PM
it is pretty fun. I especially love it because these university kids think theya re the **** while they are on and then they shrink into nothing. Even when they are at their biggest, they still are small. Its pretty entertaining
06-08-2008, 04:20 PM
06-08-2008, 05:20 PM
06-08-2008, 05:31 PM
I think it depends on who it is. If the person is unlearned, but means well, than a helping hand is quite fine.
However, there is this 19 year old kid at my gym who deserves every lost pound he receives. On literally my first day back from a car accident, and approximately 14 weeks and 30lbs off from lifting, he and his 'posse' were using every single weight on a rack for DB Shrugs. I approached and asked, "Hey man, can I see that 45 for a second?" to which he replied, "Whatever, when I'm done with it" then proceeded to stop the weight he was using, pick up the 45, and use it. So this cat finishes his set, puts the weight down, looks up at me from his seat and says, "There you go, don't hurt yourself".
The only expression funnier than my surprise at him saying that was his surprise when I fed him a shot in the teeth when he was done his workout.
I seem him now with the same inflate and deflate cycle as the rest have mentioned.
06-08-2008, 05:47 PM
The Historic PES Legend
06-08-2008, 05:52 PM
As a side note, too many irresponsible users cycle under unstable conditions - that is, they are unsure if they can acquire more, cycle amidst emotional strife, whilst moving, or my personal pet peeve, "I have to get this mega-dosed 'Compound X' cycle in before my vacation". So, instead of wisely waiting until such time where they have the time, devotion, funds, and energy to run a proper cycle, they try to pack 1 cycle with 3 years worth of gains. They then gain 25lbs in a single cycle (6lbs muscle, 10lbs sodium, 4lbs water, 5lbs fat) and lose 20 of it.
06-08-2008, 06:37 PM
there are seasonaled *******s in my gym who do that mullet!
Go on in the spring in time for the summer and girls and deflate in the winter. Running 4 compounds dbol,test,winny and some other junk and only manages to add in 10-15 pounds. Sad sad people. I laugh. Is it wrong to enjoy / find it amusing when they cough up a lung?
I hate serious *******s who think their better than you cause their bigger.
06-08-2008, 06:42 PM
The reason why I don't try and help them is because they're not the least bit humble or modest about their gains. If they showed some humbleness instead of coming into gym with barely a **** on and flexing, and whatever every chance they get, I would try to and help them out.
06-08-2008, 06:58 PM
06-08-2008, 07:25 PM
Thats me! Im that guy!
Hopefully everyone else can learn from you on how to be a better person, because in todays worlds we need more people like you.
I for one realize my foolish ways, and prostrate myself before you in hopes you'll find it in your heart to bless me with just a modest piece of your vast intellect.
06-08-2008, 07:32 PM
06-08-2008, 07:40 PM
06-08-2008, 07:41 PM
No, he was talking about me for sure. Wait for him too comment.
And talk about "start personal sarcastic attacks because you feel inferior" how bought calling me a knob, that wasnt very nice, that hurt my feelings, im a sensitive guy you know, you cant just go throwing around stuff like that, your bound to make me go into therapy.
06-08-2008, 07:42 PM
06-08-2008, 07:47 PM
06-08-2008, 07:54 PM
There is also no reason to be a d!ck. You're cycling PP (if I remember correctly?) at 70mgs ED for three weeks, and I told you there was safer ways. Why does that surprise and offend you?
06-08-2008, 07:56 PM
06-08-2008, 08:01 PM
06-08-2008, 08:02 PM
what you told me was that i should do injectables, nothing to do with my cycle at hand.
06-08-2008, 08:03 PM
I met a guy today who was 5'11 and 135lbs (in the 5% bf area), currently on a testosterone cycle, previously having done omnevol cycle (where he gained 7lbs) and some other oral I can't recall (where he gained 4). I didn't even know what to say to the guy. I tried to point him towards the concept of keeping a jar of natty pb with him and just eating a tablespoon full every time he got the chance to add extra calories, but he didn't really listen "i'm already taking in 3500 cals"
06-08-2008, 08:05 PM
06-08-2008, 08:10 PM
no telling, but it probably is something dumb like that. if he really is getting that much in, I kind of got the feeling that he was just guessing. he's not even sure which kind of test he's pinning, he bought the cycle from a dude at his gym as a preloaded syringe with a bunch of spare needles and instructions to dose 450mg once a week.... anything he gains, i'm sure he'll loose
06-08-2008, 08:11 PM
Now, how you took that as arrogant is beyond me. I think it was pretty sound advice; however, you began to become offended, and throw tantrums. Really, the only reason I contributed to your thread was because you said this:No, I meant avoiding oral only cycles entirely, in order to avoid the unwanted side-effects produced by unstable serum levels, and the build-up of active metabolites. I.e., cycling injectable compounds, using safe and studied dosages, and avoiding highly unpublished compounds.
I am not calling you an ass, and this is your life, but a wise man once said "if you can't do it properly, don't do it at all
My BP was not that high immediately after being struck by a semi, nor at any time in the aftermath. That's just not safe. I assumed that you are one of many first time, oral-only cyclers that litter this board with their nonsense. I apologize if you're not.Last time i checked mine it was 129/86
Oh ****, don't even get me started on him!Originally Posted by dkkon1
06-08-2008, 08:27 PM
My BP upon retaking a few days later stabilized in the 120-125/75-80 range.
Sorry about hijacking the f#ck out of this thread.
To answer the OP's Q, Do I "get a bit of a giggle out of it"?
This coming from a guy who didnt feel any effects from m-drol for 3wks, so you went right into a p-plex cycle? And then acted like they didnt do anything?
Is that like the pot calling the kettle black?
06-08-2008, 08:55 PM
06-08-2008, 10:06 PM
Actually no, it's not like that at all. I didn't feel any effects from either of those because I am a non responder to PH or orals in general. There are a few other people like me too, even on this board. I gained some fat from those cycles so I was obviously eating enough.
Your logic in trying to relate the two is beyond retarded. I tried m-drol and P-plex and they did nothing for me, your words are I "acted" like they did nothing. I don't know what you're trying to imply, that they did do something for me and I've been lying this whole time ? Anyways, how is that the same as somebody doing a cycle of PH or AAS and actually putting on a lot of muscle and strength, but then losing it all because of poor eating habits and not knowing anything about proper PCT. Where's the correlation ? Can anyone find it ? What's a matter with you dude, too much blood rushing to your muscles and not enough to operate your brain ?
06-08-2008, 10:19 PM
Wow both pp and md didnt work, that really sucks to be a non-responder like that. Is there anything out now that you respond well to, or any of the old stuff like m1t?
06-08-2008, 10:29 PM
06-08-2008, 10:49 PM
Nice thread Idianna.(EDIT:well it took a turn for the worse)
Theirs a guy at my gym who has decent size and I found out the other day that he's been juicing for a while now.I have talked to him about nolva and he didn't know what I was talking about.Then our PCT talk in general was just mostly me saying stuff.You could just tell he was kinda lost.He talks like he's never juiced but he told me the other day he was getting test and winny for x amount.Then the guy he talked to after me said he's been juicing for a while now.
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