Poll: What side effects did you experince while on Epistane/Epidrol/Havoc?
- 05-30-2008, 05:45 PM
- 05-30-2008, 05:48 PM
- 05-30-2008, 08:06 PM
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05-30-2008, 08:43 PM
05-30-2008, 09:38 PM
ouchy ouchy back pumps
05-30-2008, 09:38 PM
05-30-2008, 09:54 PM
Joint pain. The compound was excessively dry for me. Although strength gains were pretty good, I put on minimal muscle mass due to the dry nature of epi.
06-16-2008, 04:21 AM
yeah back pumps, it hurts kinda. And some slight "ball" cramps at odd times
06-16-2008, 08:21 AM
06-19-2008, 09:43 AM
Slowed bowel movements due to lack of water I guess. I have a sensitive system anyway.
06-19-2008, 03:11 PM
back pumps were no fun, but the strength gains were incredible. I also went from 223 to 233lbs.
06-19-2008, 04:47 PM
Epi gave me acid reflux. Had to take Prilosec on pulse days. Epi also gave me 20 pounds in 2 1/2 months! Nice trade off for me. Will try pulse cycle again in the fall.
06-19-2008, 11:19 PM
06-20-2008, 10:42 AM
I just opened a thread looking for help on my sides but Libido was just destroyed on this roid. I think I went 4 straight days without an erection and when it was time to play with the wife I was failing miserably (sic) . I ran Havoc alone (well i ran it with DHEA and Cycle support). On my first week of PCT and I see the improvements already but this side effect was just to much to handle for me. Scares me not to function well down there. Other sides I got was minimal hair loss, back pumps were minimal, but my shin pumps were just brutal. I work in the city so I walk 4 blocks to my building...there were times I had to rest for 2 minutes until I could walk again. I drank a lot of water too. Just hits me hard there. I took Epistane in January and I didn;t have these side effects. Havoc must be a little stronger (i kknow it's the same).
The strength gains were incredible. Went from 315 for 4 to 315 for 10. Shoulders went way up and I just got all around bigger (gained 12 pounds I believe). I have 8 more bottles of this stuff and I need to be smarter next time I run it...adding in test should help me out.
06-20-2008, 10:46 AM
pulsed 8 weeks going up to 50mg 3x a week
no sides at all
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06-20-2008, 11:51 AM
Headaches, really bad headaches.
I planned on running a 4 week ED cycle. I'm just finishing week two at 20mg ED and the headaches are bad enough for me to consider calling it quits. I can't imagine what week 3 at 30mg would be like. I've had them slight at day 2 at 10mg, and they just kept getting worse. My calories are high (3000-3500), I'm taking CS and Hawthorn berry ED, putting down plenty of water, and I'm training well. I hate to have to stop because I am actually starting to see results. I guess there's something about Epidrol my body does't like, so I guess I'll be starting PCT.
06-20-2008, 11:54 AM
Yeah I get a little hair loss but I am prone to it. It will only aggravate something that is going to happen anyways. But it does speed it up.
I can't complain though considering the fact that I get NO other side effects from it. I like saying that too because when I do sometimes it brings back memories of me feeling like death taking M1T! ::shivers::
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06-21-2008, 01:54 PM
06-22-2008, 04:07 PM
When did most of you guys start noticing dramatic strength gains? I'm on just started my third week yesterday and haven't noticed much at 40mgs.
06-22-2008, 06:42 PM
I didnt get anything too crazy.
Back pumps, sure, and whoever posted the testicle cramps, i had a couple of those too.
like someone flicking me in the ball, lol.
06-23-2008, 09:23 AM
Good luck on your cycle. Keep us posted on your gains.
06-23-2008, 08:43 PM
06-24-2008, 05:07 PM
Good to hear Knox. With your lean body mass, you probably needed 40 or 50 mg to really hit the sweet spot. Keep us posted on your progress.
06-24-2008, 05:52 PM
06-24-2008, 06:03 PM
07-03-2008, 08:37 AM
I'm a week in, taking 0 supporting supplements and having 0 sides.
07-03-2008, 11:44 AM
07-10-2008, 06:01 PM
07-12-2008, 09:46 AM
On my second week of pulsing, no sides working from 10mg's to 20mg's.
However now I'm up to 30mg's I'm getting a slight head ache on off days?
However this could be down to anything so not 100% it's the epi. Probably up my water intake and see whats happens?
On the whole I'm finding it a great mild compound so far :-)
07-12-2008, 10:26 AM
horrific back pumps...but I was @ 50mg ED for 45 days. gained 14 and kept all but 1.
07-12-2008, 10:44 AM
07-22-2008, 03:16 PM
07-22-2008, 03:28 PM
Acne, shedding, loss of appetite, headaches, side pains. Not a good one for me for sure.
07-22-2008, 03:32 PM
07-22-2008, 03:34 PM
maybe a little oily skin but thats it
07-22-2008, 09:48 PM
is epi or epi clones the safest ph out there ?
like for a newbie .. is that what you would suggest.
07-22-2008, 09:53 PM
07-22-2008, 11:19 PM
07-23-2008, 08:03 AM
07-28-2008, 03:18 PM
hairloss and gyno is my only worry
be a man and suck it up with the ance for 4-6wks
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