Epi/havoc vs Halo for cutting cycle stack

  1. Epi/havoc vs Halo for cutting cycle stack


    Im going to start a cutting cycle soon and im planning on running a mild PH like xtreme Tren, and add either epi or pick up some HALO for week 3. Whats superior overall? in a deficit? would they be similar with mass or cutting BF?

    my goal is maintain muscle, if not gain a tiny bit. But Lose BF is the priority! if i used epi and gained mass instead of dropping BF, id call it about even but ive never used HALO before so its tough just looking through feedback only a few people make valid direct comparisons.

    What you think?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by T H E O R E M View Post
    Im going to start a cutting cycle soon and im planning on running a mild PH like xtreme Tren, and add either epi or pick up some HALO for week 3. Whats superior overall? in a deficit? would they be similar with mass or cutting BF?

    my goal is maintain muscle, if not gain a tiny bit. But Lose BF is the priority! if i used epi and gained mass instead of dropping BF, id call it about even but ive never used HALO before so its tough just looking through feedback only a few people make valid direct comparisons.

    What you think?
    I hear great things about tren/hdrol combo for cutting or building lean mass, and is great for strength gains. Another option is trenadrol/halo
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  3. ive only seen a couple people mention hdrol/tren, most use it for cutting so im unsure if its worth buying if i already have some epi

  4. Bulk or cut, it's all about diet. Eat clean at a caloric deficit and you'll lose weight, Eat above maintenance and you'll gain. I'd just chose which you think will do the best to maintain lbm. My choice would be tren/epi...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by tnick7 View Post
    I hear great things about tren/hdrol combo for cutting or building lean mass, and is great for strength gains. Another option is trenadrol/halo
    are you talking about real tren or the PH trenadrol/extreme/etc., cus it gets confusing, when u mean the ph say the name, just don't say tren cus it can be misleading.

    as for the stack, i think tren and a halo clone would make a sick!! cutting cylce, with massive strength gains to boot, and good muscle gains!!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by 3PeteNC View Post
    are you talking about real tren or the PH trenadrol/extreme/etc., cus it gets confusing, when u mean the ph say the name, just don't say tren cus it can be misleading.

    as for the stack, i think tren and a halo clone would make a sick!! cutting cylce, with massive strength gains to boot, and good muscle gains!!

    tren as in the tren mentioned by the OP (tren Xtreme). Sorry for the confusion

  7. Quote Originally Posted by dkkon1 View Post
    Bulk or cut, it's all about diet. Eat clean at a caloric deficit and you'll lose weight, Eat above maintenance and you'll gain. I'd just chose which you think will do the best to maintain lbm. My choice would be tren/epi...

    id think IMO either would be good. I have a bunch of bottles of Epi here and was thinking it might be better to run HALO since i read it has less sides than EPI does as well as slightly more lyposis. I was hoping for those who tried both to explain fatloss between them. perhaps its not much
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