check it vanilla faces: test base transdermal/liquid dbol

[ralph4u2c]

Stats: 5'7, 196lb, 12% bf
Experience: Did a test cyp/epistane cycle and a superdrol only cycle.
Status: Currently lean bulking, trying to maintain weight between 192-198lb while slowly dropping bodyfat.

After summer, i want to do a bulk cycle to help gain some more weight. This is what i was thinking. Tell me what you guys think, make sure my math looks good, and opinions welcome.

*5g of bulk dianabol. hot water bath dissolving 125mL of everclear with 5g of dianabol yielding 40mg/mL solution. using oral syringe to measure out 40mg (1mL) per day for 4 weeks. should i have any problems dissolving this to a 40mg solution w/o using PEG-300. heard it could be done pretty easy up to 50mg/mL w/o using PEG.

----thoughts on this: decent dose of dianabol but was wondering - for people who used d-bol before, when did the bulk of your gains come. didnt want to run this oral to long, hoping to make good gains in about 4 weeks. what do you think, or should i run for 6 weeks. i know the bulk of most oral AAS gains come in the first 4 weeks, would you agree?

*10g of bulk test base powder mixed with 8oz of Penetrate + 10-15mL of DMSO to help aid in absorption. hot water bath, crushing powder with mortar before, and slowly adding/shaking/dissolving powder in transdermal. reheating and re-bathing if needed.
*math: 8oz = 240ml, 10g of test base = 10000mg so 10000/240 ~ 42mg/mL x 4mL ED = 168mL ED applied with an oral syringe. 168mg x 30% absorption rate (rough estimate) ~ 50mg of test base absorbed each day. 50mg * 7days ~ 350mg each week. will last bout 60 days. think i can dissolve 10g of test base given its molecular weight? i know people have dissolved 8-10g of formestane, 12g of 1test, etc in the same gel.

----thoughts on this: since test base has no ester, should kick in faster, it will be applied 1-2x a daily (may do 2mL 2x a day) to keep plasma levels pretty consistent. do you think 60 days is enough time to make decent gains? i know 350mg of test each week is on the low side but since it is test base w/o an ester, 350mg of test base is roughly 450mg of say test prop...not a bad dose.

*On cycle - will have nolvadex on hand and used during PCT @ 40/40/20/20, AI's cycle support for throughout cycle and PCT, Thermolife's Liver Longer as well during the first 4 weeks in conjunction with Dbol, and some sort of anti-estrogen like letro @ .25mgED, ATD, 6oxo, or whatever i can get my hands on.

*PCT - Nolvadex, Thermolife's T-bol & E-bol, ALRI's Restore.

Please give any opinions about any part of this post and tell me if everything checks out, etc. Diet wont change much, will probably up my protein and cals a bit from now and watch sodium intake so dont worry about diet during this post. Thanks in advanced :woohoo:

 

[TheNoid]

*5g of bulk dianabol. hot water bath dissolving 125mL of everclear with 5g of dianabol yielding 40mg/mL solution. using oral syringe to measure out 40mg (1mL) per day for 4 weeks. should i have any problems dissolving this to a 40mg solution w/o using PEG-300. heard it could be done pretty easy up to 50mg/mL w/o using PEG.

----thoughts on this: decent dose of dianabol but was wondering - for people who used d-bol before, when did the bulk of your gains come. didnt want to run this oral to long, hoping to make good gains in about 4 weeks. what do you think, or should i run for 6 weeks. i know the bulk of most oral AAS gains come in the first 4 weeks, would you agree?

Gains come quick. Never used with trans test base before though, but even with prop and a-dex my nips started to hurt (dosing was much higher though 80-100mgs/day). 4 weeks should be plenty.

*10g of bulk test base powder mixed with 8oz of Penetrate + 10-15mL of DMSO to help aid in absorption. hot water bath, crushing powder with mortar before, and slowly adding/shaking/dissolving powder in transdermal. reheating and re-bathing if needed.
*math: 8oz = 240ml, 10g of test base = 10000mg so 10000/240 ~ 42mg/mL x 4mL ED = 168mL ED applied with an oral syringe. 168mg x 30% absorption rate (rough estimate) ~ 50mg of test base absorbed each day. 50mg * 7days ~ 350mg each week. will last bout 60 days. think i can dissolve 10g of test base given its molecular weight? i know people have dissolved 8-10g of formestane, 12g of 1test, etc in the same gel.

----thoughts on this: since test base has no ester, should kick in faster, it will be applied 1-2x a daily (may do 2mL 2x a day) to keep plasma levels pretty consistent. do you think 60 days is enough time to make decent gains? i know 350mg of test each week is on the low side but since it is test base w/o an ester, 350mg of test base is roughly 450mg of say test prop...not a bad dose.

Cannot recall how fast test base kicked in as it was stacked with an oral. The gains were very dry and clean though (indicative of the no ester test).

 

[nephilim666]

for quick watery gains 4 weeks at 40-50mg but for steady lbm gains 25mg ed for 6 weeks. and yea if ur gyno prone be ready Dbol will annihilate you. As for your test base your fine, 350 of actualy test a week is a good dose for some solid quality gains.

 

[MkUltra]

im on the test base/proviron right now, you can start feeling it after the second day. Im using penetrate w/ DMSO as well, 4mL ED same math as yours.

I was on Dbol for about a week but it wasn't agreeing with me so I stopped it.

 

[ralph4u2c]

im on the test base/proviron right now, you can start feeling it after the second day. Im using penetrate w/ DMSO as well, 4mL ED same math as yours.

I was on Dbol for about a week but it wasn't agreeing with me so I stopped it.

yea i looked at doing pro or anavar but i wanted something to bulk up a little more instead.

 

[ralph4u2c]

im on the test base/proviron right now, you can start feeling it after the second day. Im using penetrate w/ DMSO as well, 4mL ED same math as yours.

I was on Dbol for about a week but it wasn't agreeing with me so I stopped it.

how long are you running it? every few weeks shoot me a PM or post in this thread or in some way let me know how your gains are turning out and some things you noticed while doing the cycle. cool to be the 2nd guinea pig and not the first sometimes :dance:

 

[dkkon1]

Dry gains are not at all indicative of no ester test.

 

[aspire210]

*5g of bulk dianabol. hot water bath dissolving 125mL of everclear with 5g of dianabol yielding 40mg/mL solution. using oral syringe to measure out 40mg (1mL) per day for 4 weeks. should i have any problems dissolving this to a 40mg solution w/o using PEG-300. heard it could be done pretty easy up to 50mg/mL w/o using PEG.

*10g of bulk test base powder mixed with 8oz of Penetrate + 10-15mL of DMSO to help aid in absorption. hot water bath, crushing powder with mortar before, and slowly adding/shaking/dissolving powder in transdermal. reheating and re-bathing if needed.
*math: 8oz = 240ml, 10g of test base = 10000mg so 10000/240 ~ 42mg/mL x 4mL ED = 168mL ED applied with an oral syringe. 168mg x 30% absorption rate (rough estimate) ~ 50mg of test base absorbed each day. 50mg * 7days ~ 350mg each week. will last bout 60 days. think i can dissolve 10g of test base given its molecular weight? i know people have dissolved 8-10g of formestane, 12g of 1test, etc in the same gel.

your math is very wrong. Don't forget that powders displace and have volume as well.

Dianabol = 125ml of everclear + 5g of dbol will yeild ~130ml. So your solution is closer to 5000/130 = ~38.5mg/ml. You want 40mg/ml? drop the everclear to ~120ml.

Test = 240ml pene + 10g TNE + 10-15ml of DMSO = ~260-265ml = concentration of 10000/260 = ~38.5 mg/ml to 10000/265 = 38 mg/ml. This will also not fit in the Penetrate bottle. Drop some penetrate to make up for rest. I recommend this formula: 206 ml pene + 10g TNE + 24ml DMSO. That makes the solution 10% DMSO which will give most of the benefits of DMSO without the side effects, also it will keep it in the range you originally listed. However, if you have more TNE I would recommend 12g + 204ml pene + 24ml DMSO. This makes it a nice even 50 mg/ml. I have a rat that I used this on years ago in soviet russia and it make the rats life much easier to dose it that way.

 

[pistonpump]

your math is very wrong. Don't forget that powders displace and have volume as well.

Dianabol = 125ml of everclear + 5g of dbol will yeild ~130ml. So your solution is closer to 5000/130 = ~38.5mg/ml. You want 40mg/ml? drop the everclear to ~120ml.

Test = 240ml pene + 10g TNE + 10-15ml of DMSO = ~260-265ml = concentration of 10000/260 = ~38.5 mg/ml to 10000/265 = 38 mg/ml. This will also not fit in the Penetrate bottle. Drop some penetrate to make up for rest. I recommend this formula: 206 ml pene + 10g TNE + 24ml DMSO. That makes the solution 10% DMSO which will give most of the benefits of DMSO without the side effects, also it will keep it in the range you originally listed. However, if you have more TNE I would recommend 12g + 204ml pene + 24ml DMSO. This makes it a nice even 50 mg/ml. I have a rat that I used this on years ago in soviet russia and it make the rats life much easier to dose it that way.

reps.

nicely planned id like to see more no ester transdermal cycle logs.

 

[ralph4u2c]

your math is very wrong. Don't forget that powders displace and have volume as well.

Dianabol = 125ml of everclear + 5g of dbol will yeild ~130ml. So your solution is closer to 5000/130 = ~38.5mg/ml. You want 40mg/ml? drop the everclear to ~120ml.

Test = 240ml pene + 10g TNE + 10-15ml of DMSO = ~260-265ml = concentration of 10000/260 = ~38.5 mg/ml to 10000/265 = 38 mg/ml. This will also not fit in the Penetrate bottle. Drop some penetrate to make up for rest. I recommend this formula: 206 ml pene + 10g TNE + 24ml DMSO. That makes the solution 10% DMSO which will give most of the benefits of DMSO without the side effects, also it will keep it in the range you originally listed. However, if you have more TNE I would recommend 12g + 204ml pene + 24ml DMSO. This makes it a nice even 50 mg/ml. I have a rat that I used this on years ago in soviet russia and it make the rats life much easier to dose it that way.

this is true, i forgot about displacement. 10% it is and it will not go back into the penetrate bottle. im probably going to buy a canning jar to give it a water bath and keep it in there to make it easier to dose with an oral syringe. keep us updated on your cycle as i want to continue to do some research and experiment some more so mine wont be for another 2-3 months.

 

[pistonpump]

what do you mean by vanilla faces? is that something racial or pornographic?

 

[ludacris007]

from borat dude. vanilla face= white folk

 

[pistonpump]

thats what i thought, thats kinda not cool i mean not everyone has vanilla faces....

its all good tho.

 

[ralph4u2c]

i actually tried naming it - check it vanilla, choc., cinnamon, spice and every other face that looks nice: but it wouldnt all fit.

 

[pistonpump]

i actually tried naming it - check it vanilla, choc., cinnamon, spice and every other face that looks nice: but it wouldnt all fit.

haha :lol: :thumbsup:

 

[MentalTwitch]

I only came here to see what that meant, but ill stick around for fun.

 

[joeymutz]

thats what i thought, thats kinda not cool i mean not everyone has vanilla faces....

its all good tho.

omg Whah!!!...... Looking foward to seeing the results of this cycle, i wouldn't do dbol though i would to tbol or anavar. I'm running tbol/proviron right now only on day 4 though next week I should see some results.

 

[ralph4u2c]

omg Whah!!!...... Looking foward to seeing the results of this cycle, i wouldn't do dbol though i would to tbol or anavar. I'm running tbol/proviron right now only on day 4 though next week I should see some results.

with each day i get more and more away from dbol due to higher toxicity and more bloat vs anavar or proviron but i have some time to decide and ill be sure to start a log when i do. i need to see where i am at with size, bodyfat, and strength when it comes time to decide which oral to run.

thanks again to all you vanilla and non-vanilla faces out there for posting your opinions on this matter. keep them coming if you have more :clap2:

 

[SOLARUS]

i kickstarted my current test e/h-drol/epi (staged) cycle with trans TNE (also trans 4OHT and trans boldenone)...stuff works well, and i hate waiting so it was perfect.

t-gel comes filled to the brim, so you'll have to drop a good bit of it to fit the TNE and DMSO...and 10g is generally doable, but add it slow...and try not to melt the container (i've done that twice now)

 

[ralph4u2c]

i kickstarted my current test e/h-drol/epi (staged) cycle with trans TNE (also trans 4OHT and trans boldenone)...stuff works well, and i hate waiting so it was perfect.

t-gel comes filled to the brim, so you'll have to drop a good bit of it to fit the TNE and DMSO...and 10g is generally doable, but add it slow...and try not to melt the container (i've done that twice now)

thanks, sounds good. im going to dump it all in a canning jar and use that to heat the gel in hot water as well as store it. should make it easier for an oral syringe to get in there and since its glass i can visually keep an eye out on my transdermal.

 

[pistonpump]

sounds complicated but probably isnt that hard... Ive always wanted to do a test base, tren base, boldenone base cycle. Solarus, no sides with the bold base?

 

[SOLARUS]

sounds complicated but probably isnt that hard... Ive always wanted to do a test base, tren base, boldenone base cycle. Solarus, no sides with the bold base?

standard boldenone sides, which are mild. i get slight anxiety (although it's hard to distinguish it from the T rush, honestly) and some increase hunger, but that's about it...i dont use it for very long in my kickstart, so i dont get the positive sides, either (endurance and vascularity) that i get from a nice long EQ injectable run.

 

[pistonpump]

standard boldenone sides, which are mild. i get slight anxiety (although it's hard to distinguish it from the T rush, honestly) and some increase hunger, but that's about it...i dont use it for very long in my kickstart, so i dont get the positive sides, either (endurance and vascularity) that i get from a nice long EQ injectable run.

then why do you run it :think: sounds like you want the sides and not the benefiets lol.:fool2:

 

[Royd The Noyd]

Dry gains are not at all indicative of no ester test.

Aromatization, yes.

 

[SOLARUS]

then why do you run it :think: sounds like you want the sides and not the benefiets lol.:fool2:

i was only discussing the ancillary effects...i love the instant anabolism and body recomp effects it gives me. i swear i never look better than when i'm using boldenone.

 

[TripDog]

vanilla faces..:lol:

 

[pistonpump]

vanilla faces..:lol:

get on your knees and ill give you a vanilla face:hammer: no homo.

Solarus, i see, i agree boldenone makes me look nuts.....veiny freak.