Typical Results on HAVOC???!!!
- 04-28-2008, 08:34 PM
- 04-28-2008, 10:53 PM
The majority of user feedback we've had puts the median average gains in the 8-12lb range.
Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
04-28-2008, 11:08 PM
I gained about 11lbs. on my last Havoc cycle.
I didn't see any huge decrease in bodyfat but I did see my shoulders, arms and chest get a bit bigger.
My bench went from doing 240 for five to 290 for four reps.
04-28-2008, 11:50 PM
I can't put the exact numbers down but a havoc pulse cycle and a M-drol pulse cycle put be from around 275 for 4 to 365 x 1...
04-29-2008, 07:57 PM
04-29-2008, 08:41 PM
I'm on 4th week of E-MAX pulse (by juggernaut).
Went up 20-30% on all my lifts, excellent increase in strength & size...shoulders, chest arms, vacularity are up huge. Seem a littel leaner...no gain in weight at all however lean body mass is definitely up! I believe I am trading muscle for fat. LOVE LOVE LOVE working out on the stuff...real sense of power & accomplishment in the gym. I'm sure by the end of my pulse people will know I am on something!!!
04-29-2008, 08:51 PM
these numbers are pretty discouraging
i just finished 8 weeks of jungle warfare and went from 141 to 158-161
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04-29-2008, 09:42 PM
04-29-2008, 09:58 PM
25% increase in strenght so far on 4 th week of pulse, huge pumped up muscles, increased hardness. You find this discouraging?? It's not all about what you weight on the scale. Most people dosing will be leaning out & exchanging fat for LBM...I know that's what's happening for me so the scale doesn't seem to move but my clothes are tighter etc.
No offence but if you weigh 158...how old are you or how tall are you. That's a nice increase in weight...hope it's real and you hang on to it!?
04-29-2008, 10:58 PM
04-30-2008, 02:23 AM
05-02-2008, 02:47 PM
05-02-2008, 03:08 PM
05-02-2008, 07:43 PM
i personally think u should be 18+ for this with no questions, but hey.
little disappointing on most people only get 5-10lbs gain...maybe thats people who are not so new to PS/PH! i think first time user will gain 10-15lbs... from what ive been reading around the net
im starting my cycle in 10 days from today and i really hope for large strength gains!!!
05-02-2008, 07:51 PM
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05-04-2008, 11:10 PM
05-05-2008, 09:57 AM
05-05-2008, 07:02 PM
I'm 4 weeks into an Epistain pulse & have only gained 2 lbs but my body has traded fat for muscle & I'm mostly lean.
I'm much much bigger & leaner to the point where people have actually asked if I'm on steroids!!!!!
Makes me wonder all these guys that claim the gained 10-15 lbs what exactly they gained? If I am one of the most musclular in my gym & only gained 2 lbs how can everone else gain so much? I have definitely gone thru re-comp but I would think most people in their 1st cycle would be going thru the same thing!!!
05-05-2008, 10:25 PM
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