lighter cycle for sports players

[ktravelet]

2 semesters ago a couple guys and I on the rugby team decided to do a cycle of pherplex. We did everything right with liver/heart supps, joint supps, and pct's. When the season came around I broke my wrist, and partial hammy tear, another guy broke his jaw, another guy broke his collar bone. I'm assuming this is all because of the effects of pheraplex.

Anyways I loved the results that i got, and the other guys did too, but is there anything out there that we can take that wont be so hard on us. I know the results won't be nearly as great, but a little help goes a long way. I was looking at t0bomb II, but it seems shady. If anyone can recommend something for me that would be great. I'm still leary of doing anything, but I'm weighing my options now.

Thanks

[ktravelet]

also back pumps must be at a min. We run ALOT as rugby players, and it was rediculous having those pumps and sprinting.

[Nightwanderer]

kind of weird to assume broken bones are a steroid's fault when you play a full contact sport without protective gear if you ask me, lol. Rugby is very similar to american football only without the pads & helmets, right?

[delsolrob]

I don't think you can blame these kinds of injuries on gear.

but, if you're looking for a mild cycle then I would looking into h-drol cycle or an epi pulse.

[ktravelet]

our team doctor knew about it, and my coach is a chiropractor. They both said steroids effects bone density, weaker tendons, and joints etc. I will take the world of 2 PHD's.

Also rugby is not like american football, running clock, no downs, passes must be lateral or backwards, and many more differences.

[delsolrob]

I believe the issues with tendons has more to do with the fact that your muscles are gaining strength faster than your tendons...

low estrogen levels could cause some joint issues (this could have happened in your PCT).

[delsolrob]

cissus is a popular product to help with tendon and ligaments while taking anabolics. it helps keep tendon strength up with muscle strength.

check out supercissus from USP Labs...that's what I've been taking.

[Nightwanderer]

Also rugby is not like american football, running clock, no downs, passes must be lateral or backwards, and many more differences.

what does the clock or the directions of the passes have to do with the nature of player to player contact though? I mean, you're running up and down a field, catching a thrown object, and attempting to avoid tackles, restraints and collisions from other players, right? I'm just saying, the physical aspects are close enough to where it doesn't take a scholar to see that broken bones
would be an unsuprising form of injury, especially if the sport uses minimal amounts of protective gear.

It's like saying a tae kwon do fighter broke his shin during a sparring match, and that it wouldn't be reasonable to say that it
might also be a common form of injury for a muay thai fighter, etc, because the contest rules would be different.

[ktravelet]

what does the clock or the directions of the passes have to do with the nature of player to player contact though? I mean, you're running up and down a field, catching a thrown object, and attempting to avoid tackles, restraints and collisions from other players, right? I'm just saying, the physical aspects are close enough to where it doesn't take a scholar to see that broken bones
would be an unsuprising form of injury, especially if the sport uses minimal amounts of protective gear.

It's like saying a tae kwon do fighter broke his shin during a sparring match, and that it wouldn't be reasonable to say that it
might also be a common form of injury for a muay thai fighter, etc, because the contest rules would be different.

I ssee what your saying, its different though. Running at angles, and not head on like football, but anyways so epi pulse maybe. What about Prostanozol, I know the 17a-methyl helps ALOT but im turning 21 soon and limiting drinking is fine, but stopping is a no.

[Rugger]

I ssee what your saying, its different though. Running at angles, and not head on like football, but anyways so epi pulse maybe. What about Prostanozol, I know the 17a-methyl helps ALOT but im turning 21 soon and limiting drinking is fine, but stopping is a no.

I don't know what sort of rugby you play but running straight up and down the field and not running at angles is a basic principle of rugby, at least here in the US.

[ktravelet]

I don't know what sort of rugby you play but running straight up and down the field and not running at angles is a basic principle of rugby, at least here in the US.

lol im in the US too. Just for identity protection I'm not going to say what team I play for, but lets just say I was in NM this past week for sweet 16's where we won, but lost the next day in the round of 8. This is for D1 rugby so i'd say out team is decent.

[ozarkaBRAND]

Steroids actually tend to increase bone density.. So, idk why anyone would think that a broken bone was caused by steroids.

Unless that person was a normal doctor who doesn't actually know much at all about anabolic steroids and is unreasonably biased against them due to the media.

[Haltera]

Bone issues from 4 weeks of PP, thats new to me...

Also, you listen to what your doctor team says... but did you heard from him at <21 you should stay away from roids???

mmm, did you experience "roid rage" too bro...???

[Nightwanderer]

Steroids actually tend to increase bone density..

I thought this was the case as well, hence another reason for my considering use.