Best PH for bulking...
- 04-20-2008, 03:49 PM
- 04-20-2008, 04:05 PM
i hope you mean POST cycle support. you need at least that to be safe, due to it's SERM-like qualities. but i'd always have one on hand if i were me, which i am.
but anywho, from what i know, superdrol and its clones are the best bulkers, but are harsh. so you don't want that. if you want a less harsh product, i'd go with what i SPECULATE to be the best ones for getting some bulk on from ONLY READING and those are two H's---Havoc and H-drol.
H-drol is very mild. Havoc is mild. I will, personally, run H-drol this coming summer in July or so for 6 weeks. My PCT will consist of PCS, Trione caps (6 oxo), Phosphatidyl Serine, NOW Liver Support, and Trib. I'd suggest you consider revising your PCT, as RECOVERY IS EVERYTHING. I'VE LEARNED THIS THE HARD WAY ON MY SECOND CYCLE, when I only used Nolva for PCT. It worked out fine, but a lot of my gains were lost due to sub-par recovery.
The goal is to keep estro in check/lower it as it rises with test, control cortisol, repair the liver.
04-20-2008, 04:26 PM
ok thanks isnt hdol a halo clone? and that would be the same as Hemogen-50 then?
thanks i know what your saying about pct.
while on the cycle i am going to do cycle support and extra milk thistle.
and for pct i will continue the use of cycle support and add post cycle support and 6 oxo.
04-20-2008, 05:57 PM
Pheraplex added more pounds to me than superdrol did by far.Im just saying what worked for me. I would go for any of the phera clones, my personal choice would be p-plex. Good luck with which ever product you choose.
04-20-2008, 06:02 PM
I really want somthing thats not going to give many dangerous sides.
so would a halo clone like h drol or Hemogen-50
or p plex be better or anything else i just dont want a tough one right now.
BUT i want mass! lol
04-20-2008, 06:11 PM
hdrol will not give u the desired mass ur looking for. Havoc MIGHT...but it can go either way, so far its 50/50 with ppl reporting about either 10+mass gain OR little to no mass gain but good strength gains
p-plex and mdrol are for the more "experienced" do to harsh sides, but with proper support and pct supplements its not totally out of the question
04-20-2008, 06:35 PM
what is that new andro xs......heres the profile.
4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Etiocholan-1, 4-Diene-3-17b-Diol 60mg
1, 4, 6 Androstatriene 25mg
3, 17 Etiocholtriene 25mg
would this give some nice mass??
04-20-2008, 06:43 PM
04-20-2008, 06:44 PM
04-20-2008, 06:46 PM
04-20-2008, 06:49 PM
04-20-2008, 07:22 PM
04-20-2008, 07:28 PM
04-20-2008, 08:29 PM
ok so i have decided that i will either take Havoc or Hemogen-50 (halo clone) heres my plan.
anabolic inovations cycle support
continue anabolic inovations cycle support
anabolic inovations POST cycle support
ergo pharms extreme 6oxo
my question is for a 30 cycle which one is going to be more effective while still being safe.
04-20-2008, 08:39 PM
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