JW isn't advertised as containing a methyl. Wtf?
- 04-05-2008, 09:36 PM
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04-05-2008, 09:53 PM
04-05-2008, 10:00 PM
04-05-2008, 10:19 PM
04-05-2008, 10:21 PM
04-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Well, there has been a very recent article that indicated that lower LDL and higher HDL levels didn't do jack towards heart disease. This came off from perscription drugs (i.e. Vytorin and Zetia). These perscription drugs were clinically shown to have lowered LDL and raise HDL.
That means a few things here:
1. Since HDL/LDL levels apparently don't have any correlation on reducing risk of heart disease, well then what does ? The answer seems to still be correlated with cholesterol.......possibly.
2. Since Anabolic Innovation has several ingredients that specifically address HDL/LDL. Well, if Vytorin/Zetia which have been proven to address these don't lower heart diease, this kinda makes Cycle Support/Life Support less useful. (The ingredients that address lipids).
3. Since we don't know specifically what the exact mechanism of heart diease is (despite having perscription drugs that work not reduce heart disease), you very well may be f.ucking yourself by taking harsh orals that destroy your lipid profiles. Why ?
Because even if you manage to get them back to normal (either through a hospital or on their own), this is not to indicate that you are not taking a gamble towards your own possible increased risk of heart disease. The heart diease risk is suddenly now allegedly not related to HDL/LDL, so even if you get those back in check you still might be f'ed anyway. That's kinda a scary proposition (at least to me).
04-05-2008, 10:33 PM
**** it all!!!Live for today and don't worry about it!!!Give me a syringe plumb full of test,heroine,meth,and gh......
04-05-2008, 10:39 PM
This is just my own personal opinion:
If you are going to use Jungle Warfare, you might as well just run H-Drol instead. They will probably do equal damage to your body (just my own guess), but you'll come out ahead more with H-Drol and at least you know what is in H-Drol.
From general feedback, JW seems like sides in a bottle (not to mention more expensive than H-Drol).
04-05-2008, 10:49 PM
04-05-2008, 10:49 PM
04-05-2008, 10:57 PM
Uh, its slightly different, but the 'man on man' concept from Brokeback Mountain is still there.
It appears that making any types of gains from Jungle Warfare is a stretch vs. H-Drol. Not worth it, IMO.
04-05-2008, 11:46 PM
Triglyceride .75 mmol/L
HDL .89 [>.90] WAS A BIT LOWER THAN NORMAL
Total Chol/HDL ratio 2.9
Total Co2 28
Anion Gap 9
Bilirubin total 42 umol/L [<20] I'm high on this one
Test Am 18.8 nmol/L
Estraidol 165 pmol/L
TSH 1.87 mU/L
Alkaline Phospates 80
calculated GFR >60
alkaline phosphatase 85
calculated gfr >60
hdl .82 dropped a few points
went down a lot not sure whats up here i think maybe melanotanII might be a cause of the high beginning
Testosterone am 21.6 up from 18.8 few points
Estradiol 135 down 30
04-06-2008, 12:39 AM
Unless this is some type of new system, I don't really understand your blood results.
HDL/LDL/Total Cholesterol should be in whole numbers.
My most recent blood work shows my
04-06-2008, 12:44 AM
I'm not understanding your results at all, unless you are throwing in decimal points where they should not be.
This is what my first page metabolic panel looks like
CO2: 32 (high)
Anion Gap: 10
Total Bilirubin: 0.4
Alk Phosphatase: 57
SGOT (AST): 25
SPGT (ALT): 36
Total Protein: 6.9
Globulin: 2.3 (low)
Alb/Glob ratio: 2.0
I have more tests done, but you get the idea.
My blood work looks vastly different from yours.
04-06-2008, 03:03 AM
no thats how they came from the doctor not sure and were in mmol/L and such whatever also the tests were here in canada so i dunno if that makes a difference
04-06-2008, 03:12 AM
Ok yeah, that makes sense.
My markers were measured differently than yours.
I think the majority of them were measured in: g/dL or mg/dL.
04-06-2008, 03:24 AM
Ok, so in mg/dL units here are your results:
.75 mmol/L= 13.5 mg/dL-old
.47 mmol/L= 8.459 mg/dL-new
I am pretty sure I am converting these right.
Based off of what my health markers show:
Normal Cholesterol: 120-199 mg/dL
Triglycerides: 0-150 mg/dL
I guess your triglycerides are within normal range. Your cholesterol is insanely low.
Do you have low testosterone ? I haven't seen cholesterol that low before. Mine falls in at 142 mg/dL.
I don't really understand your lipid levels. I must be reading this wrong, or somehow not converting properly.
Your testosterone increase from JW might have been a direct result from a higher level of cholesterol.
04-06-2008, 03:42 AM
04-06-2008, 03:54 AM
04-06-2008, 01:45 PM
I'm still wondering more about what exactly Jungle Warfare is doing to your cholesterol. Driver Dan also had a low cholesterol level as well.
Also, Driver Dan's HDL(good cholesterol) is on the lower end and his LDL (bad cholesterol) is on the higher end. Even if he does not have pre-jungle warfare blood work, it is probably safe to assume that Jungle Warfare damages lipid levels (no surprise)
Your cholesterol from using JW was still low. DriverDan's cholesterol is like 98 or something which was also low as well.
I'm glad that both you guys got test, liver, lipid panels.
most ppl get bloodwork only for their liver after a superdrol cycle...which is kinda useless.
It does not appear that anyone even thought about this. They just kept looking at 'liver enzymes'.
I'm not sure about the rest of the bloodwork. It all got deleted.
Thanks for your contributions sogone2day. reps.
04-06-2008, 02:09 PM
04-08-2008, 07:42 PM
Sorry but you can't make assumptions about that. For all we know it improved my cholesterol. The only assumption you can make from my blood tests is that JW does NOT increase test to high levels. Mine was quite low afterwards. I still had good results so it functions through a method other than increasing test.Even if he does not have pre-jungle warfare blood work, it is probably safe to assume that Jungle Warfare damages lipid levels (no surprise)
04-09-2008, 03:25 PM
anyone tried stacking JW with Activate Extreme? or taking AX after finishing jw? I've got a bottle of both sitting waiting. Think i'll have a search around first see what i can find. Don't want to go wasting them!
04-10-2008, 06:21 PM
04-10-2008, 06:29 PM
yeah you're right driver dan. i must have been thinking about something else. not sure why your cholesterol was so low though. Your LDL is low, but your HDL is as well. makes sense.
04-12-2008, 01:32 PM
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