I was flipping through MuscleMag last night at work. There was a Ergopharm ad that said 1-ad coming spring 08'. Anyone have any info on this?
this is the biggest secret of bb sups, sorry but you got to wait my friend...:sad:I was flipping through MuscleMag last night at work. There was a Ergopharm ad that said 1-ad coming spring 08'. Anyone have any info on this?
a tua bandeira está correcta broly?I haven't heared nothing about it, but I guess it may be a "scheme" as Gaspari Nutrition made with the Halodrol products: banned one that was iligal, but prouduced another that has th same first name that has nothing to do with the last one.
But it's only a guess :thumbsup:
Cheers
This was my first guess but I don't see how PA would come out with a less than sufficient PH/PS...he's always put out top notch stuff...I'm VERY curious as to what the make up of this will be...I haven't heared nothing about it, but I guess it may be a "scheme" as Gaspari Nutrition made with the Halodrol products: banned one that was iligal, but prouduced another that has th same first name that has nothing to do with the last one.
But it's only a guess :thumbsup:
Cheers
Damn...still have bottles of 1-AD...nice!I'm very curious about it too, I have a couple old bottles of 1-ad laying around and am yet to try them. I don't see PA coming out with something that wasn't solid though. Guess we'll all just have to wait and see!
Haha I loved it when I saw it...just had to have it thanx tho...I have a lot of rep points just on that alone hahalol ps maynehood your sig is good **** :toofunny:
He's stated before that this product will be a 1-test precursor...much like the original 1AD.This was my first guess but I don't see how PA would come out with a less than sufficient PH/PS...he's always put out top notch stuff...I'm VERY curious as to what the make up of this will be...
Yeah I'd imagine that it would...though I'm sure the price will be quite high :sad:He's stated before that this product will be a 1-test precursor...much like the original 1AD.
I fully expect this to be just as effective as the original.
Yeah you would think...HAH! we could run 1-ad/3-ad cycles with the new AX stuff. (sorry, just thought it was funny cause of the whole 1,4-ad stuff)
On a side note, isn't the dea keeping a pretty close eye on PA? Seems like it'd be pretty tough for him to come out with any PH/DS's.
I'm very curious about it too, I have a couple old bottles of 1-ad laying around and am yet to try them. I don't see PA coming out with something that wasn't solid though. Guess we'll all just have to wait and see!
I haven't heared nothing about it, but I guess it may be a "scheme" as Gaspari Nutrition made with the Halodrol products: banned one that was iligal, but prouduced another that has th same first name that has nothing to do with the last one.
But it's only a guess :thumbsup:
Cheers
...that good huh?I'll happily trade with you for whatever else you need
well, but they didn't used to be, they just changed over time. same could happen to ergopharm....Don't even try to compare Gaspari CRAP! to ErgoPharm. Gaspari is just Muscletech with different color packaging.
well, but they didn't used to be, they just changed over time. same could happen to ergopharm....
Yap, tá certíssima! E tou mesmo a escrever d Lisboaa tua bandeira está correcta broly?
Porto, é bom ver um tuga por aqui ,acho que és o primeiro que vejo além de mim...Yap, tá certíssima! E tou mesmo a escrever d Lisboa
És d onde?
I live in the same town as Gaspari and he goes into the Vitamin Shoppe that my buddy works at. He and his reps are absolute doush-bags. I don't like company owners that lack class.I don't know about that...maybe, but lets hope not. I believe Ergo has been around a lot longer than Gaspari, and I have never used an Ergo product that didn't meet label claims. Although his prices are INSANE, the products I've used have worked for me.
I live in the same town as Gaspari and he goes into the Vitamin Shoppe that my buddy works at. He and his reps are absolute doush-bags. I don't like company owners that lack class.
Haha, I seen that video on TV the other day on a 'come visit New Jersey' commercial.Gaspari is the guy in the bar with the black hair in this video,
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4JMOh-cul6M
At least that is how I picture him.
With the election drawing closer, the FDA and DEA have bigger things to worry about than some latent hormone precursor that men are using to get better workouts.I can't see PA coming out with a non-hormonal but then again I can't see it being a 1-test precursor either seeing that's one of the things that lead to his jail time before.
With the election drawing closer, the FDA and DEA have bigger things to worry about than some latent hormone precursor that men are using to get better workouts.
The Pacific Coast 1-AD is what I'd like to get my hands on. Not this ErgoPharm stuff.
At one point their products were the talk of the "town", so they made a bad mistake thereafter, hey who...so it happens...I live in the same town as Gaspari and he goes into the Vitamin Shoppe that my buddy works at. He and his reps are absolute doush-bags. I don't like company owners that lack class.
when he gets 40(and raisin size balls) he will remember that...:nono:Dude are you 20?
Reps Nunes.when he gets 40(and raisin size balls) he will remember that...:nono:
I thought Pat Arnold was the great innovator. Funny how he is bringing out a copycat of a compound that he has openly bashed. But the sheep don't seem to mind.
Supposedly he tested other 1-Androsterone products and they didnt contain what the label claimed. So his will be the first with 100% 1-DHEA. SupposedlyI thought Pat Arnold was the great innovator. Funny how he is bringing out a copycat of a compound that he has openly bashed. But the sheep don't seem to mind.
Supposedly he tested other 1-Androsterone products and they didnt contain what the label claimed. So his will be the first with 100% 1-DHEA. Supposedly
One he tested showed only 5 percent of the compound and the rest was just DHEA. Sad what some of these companies get away with.
and can you believe that Pat is objective about a competitors product? :think:Yes, this is true...at the Arnold, Pat and I talked about him testing "brand x" and it didnt contain what it was supposed to...Pat does all his own testing, so you can be sure if it is supposed to contain something it certainly will..
The owners of AMS are former employees of Ergopharm.and can you believe that Pat is objective about a competitors product? :think:
I wouldn't put any pathetic excuses past our federal government.With the election drawing closer, the FDA and DEA have bigger things to worry about than some latent hormone precursor that men are using to get better workouts.
I can believe that Pat and I are friends and have known each other for years. I can believe that when we have a private conversation he would have no need to BS me about it. I can believe that he does all his own testing, and even tests for OTHER companies. So apparantly, not only do I believe him, but his competition does as well......and can you believe that Pat is objective about a competitors product? :think:
The only reason you should have to suspect his findings is that AMS seemed to be unaware of Patrick's findings until he was going to release his version of 1-Androsterone. AMS has always seemed to consider PA their friend up until this fiasco. It just seems like a friend would tell a friend if something was wrong with their product. .........In private, at least.............and not coinciding with the release of their version of the same product.and I believe his tests as well, for most other products. this one though he is coming out with a competitive product, and also he has a bit of ego tied up in the "prohormone to 1-t". i'm not saying he is lying about it, but i'm a lot more skeptical about this finding.
The only reason you should have to suspect his findings is that AMS seemed to be unaware of Patrick's findings until he was going to release his version of 1-Androsterone. AMS has always seemed to consider PA their friend up until this fiasco. It just seems like a friend would tell a friend if something was wrong with their product.
No, there was one post by AMS on M&M in response to PA's findings. AMS is staying classy with this one.Is there a fight going on at bb.com that I don't know about ? :dance:
yeah, the timing is somewhat questionable. i'd like to see someone do blind tests on it thru a 3rd partyThe only reason you should have to suspect his findings is that AMS seemed to be unaware of Patrick's findings until he was going to release his version of 1-Androsterone. AMS has always seemed to consider PA their friend up until this fiasco. It just seems like a friend would tell a friend if something was wrong with their product. .........In private, at least.............and not coinciding with the release of their version of the same product.
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