OTC Hormone Chart

**kraftkid** · 08-06-2008, 09:30 PM

Z, this is a top notch post. This will save a lot of people tons of time, and save a LOT of general questions.

I think it is great you added all the banned stuff because it isn't uncommon at all when you do a search to bring up great feedback on products that no longer exist (in theory).

Top notch work brother. Know it is appreciated.

**Ziquor** · 08-06-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kraftkid

Z, this is a top notch post. This will save a lot of people tons of time, and save a LOT of general questions.

I think it is great you added all the banned stuff because it isn't uncommon at all when you do a search to bring up great feedback on products that no longer exist (in theory).

Top notch work brother. Know it is appreciated.

Thanks guys appreciate the positive feedback. Mass_69 added much of the older banned hormone data

Funny thing is when I originally made this I did so mainly for my own reference but I suppose some people liked it

**Mass_69** · 08-07-2008, 04:18 PM

Best Damn OTC Hormone Guide, Period!

**kraftkid** · 08-07-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mass_69

Best Damn OTC Hormone Guide, Period!

Now on to the next topics.

1. Pre-On Cycle Sides and Support Supps and
2. PCT for Dummies

I'm surprised there isn't a PCT sticky, etc in that forum....

**Ziquor** · 08-08-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mass_69

Best Damn OTC Hormone Guide, Period!

Maybe we can get some commentary from Tom Arnold.

**Ziquor** · 08-08-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kraftkid

Now on to the next topics.

1. Pre-On Cycle Sides and Support Supps and
2. PCT for Dummies

I'm surprised there isn't a PCT sticky, etc in that forum....

If anyone has any tips on how to better structure that 1st post, or make it a bit neater looking let me know

JBerto · 08-10-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziquor

If anyone has any tips on how to better structure that 1st post, or make it a bit neater looking let me know

Put the "chemical name" in another column next to the "Slang Name"

I think that could help.

JBerto · 08-14-2008, 06:34 AM

One more:
Mass Tabs (Methyl-Stenbolone): 2a, 17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-1-ene-3-one

celc5 · 08-18-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziquor

Thanks J! I can't quite remember exactly & I'm feelin too lazy to search after today, but when you ran Halo I know you had solid gains but did you track BF before/after?

I did, I did

Check my log

Initial: 194.4 at 16%
Final: 202.6 at 13.7%

Ziq, thanks for giving me a migraine and killing the last 40minutes of my evening with this thread

I'm surprised there's not more talk about 4oht. Sigh

Edit: btw Ziq, have you seen the sticky on BN? It's a pretty good list too, but I think it focuses more on dosages and outcomes. Not sure if it applies, but it's a good read nonetheless.

**Ziquor** · 08-19-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by celc5

I did, I did

Check my log

Initial: 194.4 at 16%
Final: 202.6 at 13.7%

Ziq, thanks for giving me a migraine and killing the last 40minutes of my evening with this thread

I'm surprised there's not more talk about 4oht. Sigh

Edit: btw Ziq, have you seen the sticky on BN? It's a pretty good list too, but I think it focuses more on dosages and outcomes. Not sure if it applies, but it's a good read nonetheless.

At the time of that post I forgot about your lovely logs Celc as I believe you were on your hiatus

-2.3% +8.2 pounds is awesome - not to mention almost exactly the same as me. I'll have to check out the other to see if it gives me any ideas how to improve this.

Kgonz · 08-19-2008, 02:15 AM

Noob subbed.

Currently plodding through this thread and the various other fora offered here.

Great resource for those of us new to all of this! Trying to learn all I can before jumping in a few months so as not to get my ass in a bind.

As my folks used to say "A hard head makes a soft behind".

EasyEJL · 08-19-2008, 08:14 AM

I found ALRI Mega TRN at a reasonable price. can't decide whether to buy it or not

**Ziquor** · 08-19-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kgonz

Noob subbed.

Currently plodding through this thread and the various other fora offered here.

Great resource for those of us new to all of this! Trying to learn all I can before jumping in a few months so as not to get my ass in a bind.

As my folks used to say "A hard head makes a soft behind".

Welcome - nice to see someone researching before they jump

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Originally Posted by EasyEJL

I found ALRI Mega TRN at a reasonable price. can't decide whether to buy it or not

Damn EZ you always have the hook-up to great sources. I seen a site a few weeks ago that was advertising AX Superdrol & said 'hurry only a few bottles left' but the price was $250 per bottle

**bslick69b** · 10-10-2008, 02:24 PM

Mass-tabs Mmmgooodddd!!

CageWarrior · 10-17-2008, 09:10 PM

Thanks to this thread, i can finally look at the terrible (to me) 5a compounds. I ran SD and M-Drol and didn't know about the 5a dht conversion. Luckily I also ran halodrol before and it's not one. And based on this , it looks like Tren Xtreme is a good bet when concerned about hairline. So i will probably stick with it and halo-drol and their clones. Thanks again!