- 03-22-2008, 09:45 AM
- 03-22-2008, 12:06 PM
I considered taking hemadrol for my first cycle which is a clone of haladrol I believe. I decided on Epi instead but hemadrol was a close 2nd. From
all the research I did it seems to be good stuff with minimal sides. Don't take my word though, google it and hopefully some people with actual experience will chime in.
03-22-2008, 12:14 PM
03-22-2008, 12:18 PM
03-22-2008, 06:50 PM
03-22-2008, 07:20 PM
I waited 8+ years untill mine. I didnt really know what i was doing in the gym for the first few years, and until you know how to lift with your body PS/PH wont help you the way you want them too.
With that said, if you must i would just 18.104.22.168. You only weigh 175 and i think 75 would be a bit overkill.
03-22-2008, 08:38 PM
03-23-2008, 05:08 AM
thanks for the help guys, well a yr and a half of serious training, i did another yr before this withour knowing whats a good diet for bb ecc ecc and using just a simple split wihtou any deads or squats:/..then after i did some research and talked to some knowledgable ppl this p[ast 1 and a half yr were preety gd, gd workouts and a gd diet and had some pretty nice results.
I've been reading alot about ds lately(since these are steroids not ph), i was deciding between havoc and hdrol and opted for hdrol for the simply reason taht its milder and it helps you lean out(since summer is coming) whilst adding some decent size, then as some guy mentioned im going with 50/50/50/50 and cycle support as supporting supps, with pcs and a loew dose atd ax pct(if somethin wrong happens i have a serm on hand)
03-23-2008, 06:41 PM
hi mate i was thinking of this soon, but cant seem to get much info , im on jw drive and rpm at the moment but wouldnt mind this stac in sept\oct time
03-23-2008, 06:42 PM
03-24-2008, 06:55 AM
hi mate im just in research mode atm lol i figure i can get a good understanding of it by sept oct time. i have just started reading up on it in the last day or so, what type of pct is needed does it require a serm or will a over the counter product do?
wat type of gains are you expecting? i have always been a gym goer but usually to keep at a weight i stayed at 158lbs for many years as i compeated at kickboxing and boxing at that weight . its only the last few month i changd my goals but i am a good gainer i think, i must have decent genetics lol iv gained 8.5lbs in the last 6 weeks and my abs are more visable.
03-24-2008, 11:53 AM
03-25-2008, 08:57 PM
03-25-2008, 09:25 PM
03-26-2008, 10:36 AM
03-26-2008, 10:42 AM
03-26-2008, 10:44 AM
A 3 or 4 week cycle would be a waste IMO, regardless of the dose. Halodrol takes a couple weeks to really kick in. Most people run it for at least 6 weeks.
Are you running the original Halodrol or one of the clones?
03-26-2008, 10:46 AM
03-26-2008, 08:25 PM
I don't think MOST are running it for 6 weeks, I think most of what I've read is 4 to 5 weeks although it doesn't start kicking until around week 3. If you're going to push 6 weeks your risking more potential post cycle issues (potential I said). For a first cycle, 4 would be the sensible length.
I'm old, and muscular, and been lifting off an on for 25 years, and my first H-Drol cycle will be 4 weeks at 50mg ED ( did I add I'm a puss too?)
03-26-2008, 08:47 PM
03-26-2008, 08:50 PM
Terrible, it's my first H-Drol cycle, not my first cycle...as I said, most are not running H-Drol more than 4 weeks, it's a methyl. I've read literally hundreds of H-Drol threads on many different boards, 4 weeks is the norm, although some do push 5 or 6 weeks. Bottom line, it's a methyl compound and your liver is under stress so best to keep the cycle length down just like other methyl orals. But as you said, to each his own, we agree to disagree.
P.S. saw several logs where the gains stopped at the 4th week and the 5th week beyond was deemed pointless. Besides, I don't want to get too huge. I've already got damn near 18" inch arms, what the hell ya want from me, blood!!
03-26-2008, 08:55 PM
P.S. I get a placebo effect from day one, which carries over until the actual compound kicks in.
03-26-2008, 08:57 PM
Best of luck
03-27-2008, 08:29 AM
03-27-2008, 09:57 AM
from what i have seen, most first timers cycle h-drol for four weeks and make very good gains (often keep 5-10lbs) when you consider how mild it is and how long it takes to kick in. it seems some of the more experienced users go for about five weeks (unless using for a bridge) but i have also read many of the experienced users say that the fifth week is pointless because gains end with the fourth week.
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03-27-2008, 07:45 PM
Too late to start the log, I'll be done in another week and a half. You guys train too hard (meaning too damn much) and seriously for me. I just go in my garage, do some benches, rows, squats, shoulders, 3 sets bi's and tri's and grow. all i've ever done. Screw diet, I eat sensible but I don't have time for 6 meals a day, 200+ grams of protein, etc. If you aren't competing, all that is just silly.
03-28-2008, 06:03 PM
Cycle still going well, zero in the way of noticeable sides, still at 50mgs a day. I'm surprised I haven't even got a zit or something. Pants are fitting looser around waist, seem to be cutting/hardening a bit as would be expected with no increased cardio (well, no cardio) or changes to diet. By my pill count, still have 7 or 8 days left so this coming week should be a good one.
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