I'm looking for suggestions on the mildest pro-hormones/pro-anabolics available for someone looking to increase strength/leaning without mass gains?
Any advice is appreciated!
i would say epi good too
Along with the two previous posts ill throw propadrol in there too.
h-drol deffo, as mild as there is
the consensus seems to be H-Drol, although Furazadrol (non-methyl) is another option at a higher dose.
I would put Epistane in 3rd place do to "potential" issues.
Hell, I've got all 3 of them
ditto H-drol...you can crank the dosage way up with little chance of sides.
I've used h-drol a couple of times.
Never gained any weight.Leaned out a little.
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I learned alot of what not to do,but I can't justify using designers to cut either.I'd rather use a test booster and some weight loss supps.And save the designer for when i'm ready to put on more size.
you might want to try 11 oxo. I've been on 3 caps a day and have experienced no sides. I haven't gained any mass but i have leaned out and the pumps i get, and the vascularity in the gym are ridiculous. I would take 6 caps though and see how that works for you. It isn't a great mass builder from what i hear but if you want some strength, vascularity, and to lean out with little to no sides then this is your best bet. Even if i did a 4-6 weeker of of a designer steroid i would follow it with a 4 weeker of this stuff.
if u do a 12-16 weeks cycle of test your going to be shutdown for that amount of time. If you do a mild steriod such as tbol for lets say 6 weeks then 4 weeks of 11 oxo, you will be suppresed but recovery should be very quick and easy. It will make it a lot easier for someone to keep there gains if they want to do just oral only cycles. JMO though. For someone that only looking to gain 5-8lbs of muscle and lean out a nit i would highly recommend trying this out. I came off an anavar and waited 3 weeks into my pct then started 11oxo, i'm loving every minute of it. I'm not shutdown at all, and i don't feel suppressed, but i am only on 3 caps per day. I'll be getting blood work done in about a month so we'll see what my levels are at.
Last edited by joeymutz; 03-28-2008 at 08:13 AM.
I'm finding H-Drol to be more than a cutter, it can definitely build LBM, I like it, tis all I need.