Havoc and Test E

ALJD0812

ALJD0812

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i got a lot of Havoc so is it ok to stack it with TEST Enth? I don't see a problem with it but I don't see many people doing it....is there a reason?

Also, I got Arimdex for my cycle and I posed this question a few months ago but can I run the arimdex in weeks 4-8 to kill the bloat at 1/2 a pill EOD? I don;t see much advice with Arimdex and I don;t want to take that drug lightly. Can't wait for my TEST cycle in May. LOL, I got 12 bottles of Havoc (Well 8, but 4 bottles of Epistane). I am going to have to get rid of some as I can't do this much. But still I am stoked!!!!
 
how long is the test cycle going to be? if u have used Havoc before and really want to use it in ur test cycle then run it the first 4 weeks of ur test cycle
 
yeah i used Epistane and absolutely loved it. It's not overkill is it? My main concern is the proper way to use the arimdex. I really don't want that crazy bloat from the Test. I also got some Winstrol that I was going to use in the beginning of my cycle. I have all these options but I am not sure which way I want to go. The gains from Epistane were awesome dude, I can only imagine what they will be this summer. I just don't want to be all bulk.
 
well while ur on the epi that should keep bloat down, and with the adex u should only take it only on days u feel bloated, which shouldnt be everyday...dont hold me to that though, someone else will chime in im sure
 
yeah that keeps the bloat down the first 4 weeks, which with Enth I wouldn't have to worry about that in the beginning since it kicks in , in about 2 weeks. I did Test last summer and looking at the pictures I was so bloated, on Epistane it looked normal. I guess I want the normal look on Enth but that's why I want to get the Arimdex down pat. Funny I am spending all this money on Test and arimdex (which is more than my cycle) and the look I want I got from Epistane. I guess I just want the strength. This is perhaps the addictive side of juice but don't you love it when you are putting up a lot of weight and people just turn around to see how much you are doing and how many reps you do? I swear when i feel everyone watching it makes me pump out another rep or 2.
 
Here's a thought...

Run havoc throughout the entire cycle at 20mg per day. That should help cut down on bloat, and if you wanted, you could up the dose during the first 4 weeks, and the last 3 weeks (while the esters clear).
 
ALJD0812 said:
I guess I just want the strength. This is perhaps the addictive side of juice but don't you love it when you are putting up a lot of weight and people just turn around to see how much you are doing and how many reps you do? I swear when i feel everyone watching it makes me pump out another rep or 2.
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ive never done juice, yet, but i have to say that my strength was way up when i was on jungle warfare and Drive and ppl were looking at me like i was on juice. and looking back at pictures, i got reallllllllllly bloated from it, my face seemed really puffy etc...

im looking into a test prop cycle for the summer :D
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
Here's a thought...

Run havoc throughout the entire cycle at 20mg per day. That should help cut down on bloat, and if you wanted, you could up the dose during the first 4 weeks, and the last 3 weeks (while the esters clear).
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Hmmm, I never thought of running Havoc that long but I guess it's fine. I mean it's less toxic than running dbol. Reps to you my friend.
 
ALJD0812 said:
Do i though, Is HCG and Nolva enough for my PCT? Any other recommendations? What else can I take?
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Well, if it was me, I'd replace Nolva with Torem, and throw a little Clomid in there for the first few weeks too.. Also, think about adding some DHEA to you pct, about 200mg/day the first week, then ramp down according to how long your pct is.

Now, that's def. covered. I think your pct would be fine, but it could be better, imo.
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
Well, if it was me, I'd replace Nolva with Torem, and throw a little Clomid in there for the first few weeks too.. Also, think about adding some DHEA to you pct, about 200mg/day the first week, then ramp down according to how long your pct is.

Now, that's def. covered. I think your pct would be fine, but it could be better, imo.
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I have DHEA now but only was taking 25 mg while on my Epi cycle. So i can take this off cycle? Other people said stay away from this off. I am technically still in my PCT with Nolvadex. So I can add back in DHEA? 200 mg will work? Damn, i need to get better with PCT. Thanks dude, I will add to your rep.
 
ALJD0812 said:
I have DHEA now but only was taking 25 mg while on my Epi cycle. So i can take this off cycle? Other people said stay away from this off. I am technically still in my PCT with Nolvadex. So I can add back in DHEA? 200 mg will work? Damn, i need to get better with PCT. Thanks dude, I will add to your rep.
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How far into your current pct are you?
 
Ok, then. I would just finish up like you are. But next time, throw the DHEA in there.

An example of a 4 week pct with DHEA: 200/100/50/25... just to clarify.
 
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