Epistane vs Winstrol / Var

[wheycasein]

How does epistane compare to winstrol and var?

Thanks

[RoadBlocK]

Well, with no sarcasm intended, they dont compare at all, in my opinion epi may even be a stronger compound. Running them together may yield very positive results, but again, I feel they are in different categorys. But Im no expert, so maybe someone else can chime in and agree or disagree with me.

[wheycasein]

Well they are all non aromatising low androgenic steroids. So they have that in common. That's why I put them together.

[RoadBlocK]

Well they are all non aromatising low androgenic steroids. So they have that in common. That's why I put them together.

Ahhh....I see what you are getting at. I was looking at them in different ways of use/purpose, for strength, for cutting, for the anti-estrogenic property, for a stand alone cycle, see what Im saying. Also, var/win are both real dry, I dont see epi that way. Sorry I couldnt be of more help to you.

[poopypants]

I feel Epi is mighty dry but not so dry you can down carbs like crazy and not suffer for it.

All in all I think if your goal is cutting or a lean bulk Epi is the way to go regardless, your much more liekely to still add LBM and gain strength with epi rather then Var or Winny. I do think however as an all out cutting agent that Var and winny are the way to go since they will give some killer vascularity and veinage..... in a perfect world id be taking the winny and epi together... no need for var since both these compounds can do anything var can only better.

[RoadBlocK]

Haha poopy what are you following me

LOL, you know what your right, I just checked my notes from like a year ago, and epi was dry for me too, I dont know wtf I was thinking, it sucks getting old.

[poopypants]

LOL I think you bump a thread then I check my new posts so I check out whats interesting... just so happens were interested in the same threads tonight?

...... or am I stalkin u????

[robdog]

if you took winny with epi your joints would definitely suffer.

[poopypants]

thats why I said "In a perfect world"

I would love to have both their effects at once but in all honesty I have trouble with one and my joints... I would literally not be able to function if I were taking both, let alone lift.

[3PeteNC]

Well they are all non aromatising low androgenic steroids. So they have that in common. That's why I put them together.

actually var and epi are quite androgenic

[wheycasein]

I know var is considerably more androgenic than Winstrol and I read that Epi is not so.

[poopypants]

what??? even if its androgen profile isnt the highest (actually has a VERY high anabolic profile) it has one of the highest binding affinity for tha AR and exhibits very androgenic sides if any. It actually has more Anrdrogenic qualities rather then anabolic ones.

[wheycasein]

Poppy, you're talking about Winstrol right?

Another question I have is how gear like for example Oxymethelone - Anadrol does not bind to the AR receptor and yet is very androgenic?

[poopypants]

Poppy, you're talking about Winstrol right?

Another question I have is how gear like for example Oxymethelone - Anadrol does not bind to the AR receptor and yet is very androgenic?

uhhh ya Im not sure bout that one. Like I said too Epi is a much more anabolic compound profile wise, think its like 1200 anabolic::300 androgenic or somethin like that so the fact that its so damn androgenic is just crazy.

But the one about abombs still baffles me, sposed to have such a low binding affinity for the AR its neglagable, most of its effects are assumed to come from other pathways and the fact tht it can directly stimulate the Estrogen receptor as well without aromatizing just suprises me it has the effects it does at all.

some things just work different in vivo then on paper.

[nephilim666]

winny gives the sickest hardening effect. even more so then 6 weeks of tren ace. injectible winny can also be used up to 8 weeks . epistane at 50-70 mg did absolutely nothing to me in terms of.. well.. anything. so my vote goes to winstrol.

anavar is possibly the least worthwhile steroid. there is something better to use for any goal. you got to use up to 100mg of this crap and its also quite expensive. the gains from it are negligible and the hardening effects are mediocre at best.

[RoadBlocK]

winny gives the sickest hardening effect. even more so then 6 weeks of tren ace. injectible winny can also be used up to 8 weeks . epistane at 50-70 mg did absolutely nothing to me in terms of.. well.. anything. so my vote goes to winstrol.

anavar is possibly the least worthwhile steroid. there is something better to use for any goal. you got to use up to 100mg of this crap and its also quite expensive. the gains from it are negligible and the hardening effects are mediocre at best.

Wow you went to 70mg and got nothing from epi?? It wasnt a clone was it? Im surprised when running havoc and epithin-e 40mg seemed to be perfect and gains were noticeable, much more so than with a couple of hdrol clones that were run.

And dont be so tough on var, the real stuff can help make great strength gains, everythings not about looks.

[nephilim666]

winny gives me way better strength gains then var. everything gives me better strength gains then var lol.

yea epi was a no show as far as anything for me. i used epi and methyl E i got a bottle of each. ph/ds have small effects on me.. on phera 40mg and halo 100mg for 6 weeks i put on like 10 lbs and hardend up a little. superdrol at 30mg for 4 weeks i got shredded and put on 8lbs.. test C + primo + Tbol i put on 35 lbs in 12 weeks.

[poopypants]

wow man, sounds like its more of an issue with your own physiology then the compounds themselves, your taking double what most others take and still getting questionable results??

Im sorry but most people would BLOW UP on 100mg of hdrol and 40mg of pplex, not to mention run into some major sides, sounds like you have a REALLY over active liver or a tough gut since it turns out you respond very well to injectables but not orals.

[nephilim666]

when it comes to the dark side im darth vador..

but a cycle for me would make people new to this sick ( and HUGE )... test E 1g a week, primo 800mg, Dbol 100mg.

[poopypants]

see dbol 100mg????? thats rediculous, I blew UP on 35-45mg of dbol ed, literally all puffy faced and everything, and that was with me even taking 60mg of Epi with it too.