t1 final/t1 pro

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i see there is a good price difference between the two. my main concern is getting decent size and avoiding side affects. with that i think t1pro probably increases the chance of side affects compared to t1final? my question though, based on the price is whether or not t1final is as strong as 1-ad at least. I did notice and like the gains I made on 1-ad. was just wondering if i can at least expect that or greater for gains/potetency

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tough question to answer, cuz everyone will obviously respond differently. The benefit you will get with getting either Pro or Final is the 4AD along with 1 test. 4 AD is better for bulking based on the idea that you will hold more water while using it (please correct me if im wrong). But I think that you will be very happy with either of BDCs products. I'm just over a week into my T1 Final cycle of 4 weeks and having nothing but praise so far.

I'll be posting before and after pics and stats after my cycle is over.
 

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do you know if t1 final has more 1test then 1-ad? i realize it has 4ad with it, but i'm very curious if it has the same or more 1test because i responded VERY well on 1ad and want to stick with at least that much 1test if possible.

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1AD does not have any 1test in it, it converts to 1test in the liver. the conversion rate is not known but is said to be around 15%. if i remember rightly.
so you cant really compare the two in reguards that the one has to convert and the conversion rate isnt certain. Personaly i think 1AD is the best oral product you can use but it doesnt compare to using a good transdermal product.

what dose was you running of 1ad?

imo id go for a transdermal, and t1 final is a great product!
 

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Best oral 1-AD? Have you ever used 1-T from Molecular or 1-TU from Nutrex? They dont have to convert in the liver therefore higher conversion % and safer!!!!!!
 

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do you know if t1 final has more 1test then 1-ad? i realize it has 4ad with it, but i'm very curious if it has the same or more 1test because i responded VERY well on 1ad and want to stick with at least that much 1test if possible.

thx

Yes T1 pro has more test in it. 10g 1 test, 5 g of 4AD. Compared to the 2.5 g of 1 test and 2.5 g of 4AD in t1 Final
 

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Personaly i think 1AD is the best oral product you can use but it doesnt compare to using a good transdermal product.
Yeh i think a good transdermal with a high test ratio would be the best bet for you 2g corey
 
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we have T1-pro available in a 4oz version for $45 and if you like it after you try it you can buy the larger version from Power.
 

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Best oral 1-AD? Have you ever used 1-T from Molecular or 1-TU from Nutrex? They dont have to convert in the liver therefore higher conversion % and safer!!!!!!
yes i have used 1-T gels from molecular but not 1-tu! had better results and value for money from 1AD. Fair enough if you have better results with a diffrent product . The feed back from 1AD is usually alot better then other products and they worked for me!

all because they are 1 test orals and dont have to convert still dont mean it gets into your bloodstream any better!
 

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how long would 4ounces of t1pro last normally doing the recommended dosage?
 

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4weeks is all i wanted to do of it :) i'll make my order in a week when i get in the dorms at school and get my new addy. where should i order my liquid clomid/nolva? i did liquidresearch.com once and their customer service and everything SUCKED imo. any ideas where to go for those two? its a good idea to have on hand even for one 4 week cycle right? my risks of gyno should be low with only a 4 week cycle i hope.

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Yes T1 pro has more test in it. 10g 1 test, 5 g of 4AD. Compared to the 2.5 g of 1 test and 2.5 g of 4AD in t1 Final
T1 Pro = 240ml @ ~$90
T1 Final = 120ml @ ~$30

2 bottles of T1 Final is cheaper than 1 bottle of T1 Pro. If you want more 1-test, then go with T1 Pro. When I was on T1 Pro i did get a little lethargic, but nothing that I couldn't handle. I speculate that BDC lowered the 1-test level in T1 Final to reduce lethargy.
 

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hmmm lethergy is something i don't want while in school, maybe t1final would be best, forgot about that side affect, was so worried about gyno, thx
 
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You can prolly max out T1 Final by adding 1gr of 1-test and 1gr of 4-AD to it. This would give you a dose of 58mg of 1-test/4-AD per squirt.
 

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where should i order my liquid clomid/nolva? i did liquidresearch.com once and their customer service and everything SUCKED imo. any ideas where to go for those two? its a good idea to have on hand even for one 4 week cycle right? my risks of gyno should be low with only a 4 week cycle i hope.

thx man
Go to the Member Store at the top of the page. They have flavored clomid/nolva and their service is excellent. It's always a good idea to have those around.
 

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i went to flavored research chems and i see it all listed by chemical names it appears. any idea what the proper name for clomid and nolva are?
 
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Clomid = clomiphene citrate
Nolva = tamoxifen citrate
 

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