11-oxo/Adrenodione Results

[turbopugsleyl]

Hey guys,

I was searching over the board for info on this supplement....either the Ergopharm or Anabolic Xtreme......I wanted to gather some information hard facts on this one...composition changes, fat loss, muscle gain, noticeable changes that you felt/took place.....any hard info or experience on these would be appreciated.......Also I have used and heard about egropharm and that their products are fairly decent but not used Anabolic Xtreme before...any info on their products quality would be appreciated as well....

Pugs

 

[turbopugsleyl]

bump

 

[EasyEJL]

Well, AX's product isn't quite available yet, but they are a reliable real company. 11-oxo works well, other than $$ wise. to reach the 450mg/day you need for anabolic effects to start gets pretty expensive.

 

[delsolrob]

a less expensive alternative is:AndroXtreme-D higher dose and same compound as 11-oxo (less expensive)

check out my thread on cortisol control: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/86099-looking-rec-cortisol.html

 

[EasyEJL]

even less expesnive is bulk adrenosterone powder

So far results on androxtreme were less than stellar

 

[turbopugsleyl]

Well I was really looking to take this supplement for fat loss comp change purposes....

 

[EasyEJL]

well, keep in mind its a steroid. so i'm hoping you are over 21.

although the cortisol blocking may make it easier for you to get leaner by reducing the cortisol, its really hard to say individual to individual how much difference that will make.

 

[turbopugsleyl]

Im 24 ex powerlifter....

 

[turbopugsleyl]

I got the idea of fat loss from the profile thread about it said they had really good comp changes...but I have yet to find who these folks are?

 

[EasyEJL]

well, if you want to find info on the logs for the AX product, it was previously named 3-ad

http://www.google.com/search?q=3-ad+site:anabolicminds.com&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

it did give decent body comp changes for a number of users, but at 450mg/day or higher. Dosing 11-oxo at that is a $100 a month expense.

 

[turbopugsleyl]

any hard numbers?

 

[EasyEJL]

no such thing really. Taking superdrol as an example, possibly the "heaviest" oral steroid, people have gained between 6-30lbs on a cycle.

So theres no way to tell for sure. Really unless you are really lean already, diet and cardio affect fat loss far more than anything else.

 

[Ziquor]

From the sample logs I seen with high dosing the guys on average seems to put on 2-4 pounds in a month's cycle and all stated they lost some fat as well. Remember the mass you do gain is also tremendously easy to maintain.

 

[pistonpump]

not worth the money imho

 

[greg232323]

Any recommendations about taking a pre workout with 11 - oxo? I started 2 days ago. 600mg a day and am feeling very tired. Should I add in a preworkout or just start the test booster with it?

 

[nikosktm]

add epiandro... not test booster. and if youwant a good pre workout

 

[greg232323]

add epiandro... not test booster. and if youwant a good pre workout

I see epi-andro isnt very strong which is good. I was not really looking to stack. I heard a few say the lethargy goes away after about a week so I am hoping this is true.