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    question on Havoc pulse cycle: different info from other forum..


    Hello All,

    I was reading on the anabolics forum for some additional info on pulsing Havoc. And I have a question for you all.

    I originally read most info on dutchbodybuilding.com and bodybuilding.com, before I discovered anabolicminds.com forum. And strangely enough, there is somethimes a difference on info of both forums. certainly about the 'additional supps', I read other info..
    And now I'm doubting about my cycle.
    What do you think of this cycle?:

    This is how I originally planned it:
    Schedule:
    week 1 : 10/20/30
    week 2 : 30/30/30 (20before training, 10after)
    week 3-5 : 40/40/40
    week 6: 50/50/50? (depends how I'm feeling)

    extra (always):
    -Absolute Quality Bulk SuperCissus – 2g/day
    -taurine 2g/day and increase if necessary till 6g/day
    -Potassium: more then 1 g/day
    -multi-vit

    extra off-day:
    -Designer Supplements Lean Extreme (cortisol blocker) => better recovery, take AM
    -DHEA (25/50g/day) => additional gain, take AM
    -Gaspari Novedex XT (test booster) less ‘back bounce’, less post cycle therapy necessary

    PCT:
    Ergopharm 6-OXO: (Take 3 to 6 capsules at night with last meal.)
    Day 1-3 6 caps
    Day 4-6 5 caps
    Day 7-9 4 caps
    Day 10/12 3 caps
    Day 13-15 2 caps

    This was my original plan (you see that I already read a lot about this :-) )
    And now I'm reading a lot on 'cycle support' and 'post cycle support' on this forum. And I'm doubting about my 'off-days' and my 'PCT'.

    I think the test-booster and cortisol blocker on the off-days should keep my libido ok. (instead of using 'post cycle support')
    On dutchbodybuilding.com most people also use a bottle of 6-oxo as PCT, (most even thought this was not necessary as they had no shutdown..)

    Maybe I can combine 6-oxo with 'post cycle support' as PCT? (to make my PCT 'stronger'? or is this overkill?) If so, which quantity should I take it?

    Your opinions please on my havoc pulse cycle.
    I'm really doubting now should I stick with my original plan or not??


    thanks in advance
    evolution

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    Quote Originally Posted by evolution View Post
    Hello All,

    I was reading on the anabolics forum for some additional info on pulsing Havoc. And I have a question for you all.

    I originally read most info on dutchbodybuilding.com and bodybuilding.com, before I discovered anabolicminds.com forum. And strangely enough, there is somethimes a difference on info of both forums. certainly about the 'additional supps', I read other info..
    And now I'm doubting about my cycle.
    What do you think of this cycle?:

    This is how I originally planned it:
    Schedule:
    week 1 : 10/20/30
    week 2 : 30/30/30 (20before training, 10after)
    week 3-5 : 40/40/40
    week 6: 50/50/50? (depends how I'm feeling)

    extra (always):
    -Absolute Quality Bulk SuperCissus – 2g/day
    -taurine 2g/day and increase if necessary till 6g/day
    -Potassium: more then 1 g/day
    -multi-vit

    extra off-day:
    -Designer Supplements Lean Extreme (cortisol blocker) => better recovery, take AM
    -DHEA (25/50g/day) => additional gain, take AM
    -Gaspari Novedex XT (test booster) less ‘back bounce’, less post cycle therapy necessary

    post cycle therapy:
    Ergopharm 6-OXO: (Take 3 to 6 capsules at night with last meal.)
    Day 1-3 6 caps
    Day 4-6 5 caps
    Day 7-9 4 caps
    Day 10/12 3 caps
    Day 13-15 2 caps

    This was my original plan (you see that I already read a lot about this :-) )
    And now I'm reading a lot on 'cycle support' and 'post cycle support' on this forum. And I'm doubting about my 'off-days' and my 'PCT'.

    I think the test-booster and cortisol blocker on the off-days should keep my libido ok. (instead of using 'post cycle support')
    On dutchbodybuilding.com most people also use a bottle of 6-oxo as PCT, (most even thought this was not necessary as they had no shutdown..)

    Maybe I can combine 6-oxo with 'post cycle support' as PCT? (to make my PCT 'stronger'? or is this overkill?) If so, which quantity should I take it?

    Your opinions please on my havoc pulse cycle.
    I'm really doubting now should I stick with my original plan or not??


    thanks in advance
    evolution
    Off days look ok, but I would use a serm for pct, unless you take a two week break in the middle of the cycle. IMO, pulsing is worthless, after 4 weeks I was shut down like a regular cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilPsychotic View Post
    Off days look ok, but I would use a serm for post cycle therapy, unless you take a two week break in the middle of the cycle. IMO, pulsing is worthless, after 4 weeks I was shut down like a regular cycle.
    thanks for the comment already.

    where you really shut down completely by pulsing Havoc? it's really strange that it can differ so much with people. I spoke to peope who said 'I had no shutdown at all, I took 6-oxo because I ordered it, and had it standing in the closet'

    Which quantity did you take of Havoc?
    Which PCT did you take then? Nolva?
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    It's good to have some sort of SERM on hand just in-case.
    A lot of people talk about products such as PCS because it has Resveratrol. from what I hear this product was ment for pulsing cylces or steroids that are more mild. Take a look into the products with resveratrol if you are not into the whole buying prescription serms type deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeakPoint View Post
    It's good to have some sort of SERM on hand just in-case.
    A lot of people talk about products such as PCS because it has Resveratrol. from what I hear this product was ment for pulsing cylces or steroids that are more mild. Take a look into the products with resveratrol if you are not into the whole buying prescription serms type deal.
    Remember better save then sorry.
    I already ordered Post Cycle Support. I'm doubting to use this instead of 6-OXO as PCT
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