My First PH Cycle

[mbm]

Hey everyone, I've been lifting for about 5 years now and have been researching PH's for the past 8 months. I'm going to be doing a 4 week cycle of P-Plex in about a month or so. My cycle will run 15/30/30/30 and I will run Cycle Support in conjunction with P-Plex. For my PCT I will be taking Post Cycle Support along with Foremastane (my AI) and Powerfull (Test Booster) for 4 weeks. The Foremastane will be slowly increased throughout the four weeks and taken another 4 weeks after PCT is finished, but do I lean myself off of the Post Cycle Support like you do with a traditional SERM or take the recommended dosage the whole four weeks? Also, any change in dosage with the Powerfull? Thanks guys, Love the forum.

[TripDog]

Hey everyone, I've been lifting for about 5 years now and have been researching PH's for the past 8 months. I'm going to be doing a 4 week cycle of P-Plex in about a month or so. My cycle will run 15/30/30/30 and I will run Cycle Support in conjunction with P-Plex. For my post cycle therapy I will be taking Post Cycle Support along with Foremastane (my AI) and Powerfull (Test Booster) for 4 weeks. The Foremastane will be slowly increased throughout the four weeks and taken another 4 weeks after PCT is finished, but do I lean myself off of the Post Cycle Support like you do with a traditional SERM or take the recommended dosage the whole four weeks? Also, any change in dosage with the Powerfull? Thanks guys, Love the forum.

I dont know a whole lot about Phera but that dose looks low...I could be wrong.

[ozarkaBRAND]

Hey everyone, I've been lifting for about 5 years now and have been researching PH's for the past 8 months. I'm going to be doing a 4 week cycle of P-Plex in about a month or so. My cycle will run 15/30/30/30 and I will run Cycle Support in conjunction with P-Plex. For my post cycle therapy I will be taking Post Cycle Support along with Foremastane (my AI) and Powerfull (Test Booster) for 4 weeks. The Foremastane will be slowly increased throughout the four weeks and taken another 4 weeks after PCT is finished, but do I lean myself off of the Post Cycle Support like you do with a traditional SERM or take the recommended dosage the whole four weeks? Also, any change in dosage with the Powerfull? Thanks guys, Love the forum.

Hopefully Crowler will chime in on your post cycle support question..

Everything else looks pretty good though, IMO. And, what do you mean by "any change in dosage with the Powerful?" Like, different from label directions or what?

[mbm]

From my research most said that they did not like taking much more than that (bad sides)...some said 40 was ok but I thought I would break myself in a little bit and if I feel I can handle more then I'll up the dosage, but the bottle actually says that 45 is ok as long as u weigh over 220 (pills come in 15 mg) I myself weigh 160

[mbm]

For the dosage I mean to either ramp up or down on it or keep it constant throughout PCT

[ozarkaBRAND]

you should be good with keepin' it at a constant dose..

that's what I'd do anyway.

[TripDog]

From my research most said that they did not like taking much more than that (bad sides)...some said 40 was ok but I thought I would break myself in a little bit and if I feel I can handle more then I'll up the dosage, but the bottle actually says that 45 is ok as long as u weigh over 220 (pills come in 15 mg) I myself weigh 160

Yea I herd the sides from Phera are def there...so do the dose you planned out...fo sho. I would personally run a non methyl with it....something like propadrol,or furzadrol

[ozarkaBRAND]

Yea I herd the sides from Phera are def there...so do the dose you planned out...fo sho. I would personally run a non methyl with it....something like propadrol,or furzadrol

or maybe some E-Form

[mbm]

Thanks guys...any input on my 15/30/30/30? Also, would a 5 week cycle cause a great deal more of shut down...The only reason I'm wondering is because most start feeling the effects in week 3 and prefer to run a little longer cycle

[mbm]

HaHa yea that would be nice...maybe in a future cycle, I don't wanna go balls out just yet

[avgBdybldr]

not i. for a pct, i start the anti estrogen out strong and then lower the dose. for instance if i was taking say novadex xt or formadrol, i would take for pills a day for the first week, 3 pills a day for the second week, and 2 pills a day til it's gone. i would run the test booster, something like hypertest, at the recommended dosage - 4 pills a night before bed. this is what i have always done for pct (once i learned what a pct was).

[TripDog]

Thanks guys...any input on my 15/30/30/30? Also, would a 5 week cycle cause a great deal more of shut down...The only reason I'm wondering is because most start feeling the effects in week 3 and prefer to run a little longer cycle

I would run a low dose of Dhea to prevent lethargy. 50-100mg....usually around day 14 shutdown can really screw with you on orals.

[ozarkaBRAND]

i think a 4 weeker would be good... if you want to extend it though, you could add in a non-methyl at the same time as the phera (like trip said) and after the 4 weeks of phera, stop the phera and continue the non-methyl for up to 6-8 weeks..

[ozarkaBRAND]

not i. for a post cycle therapy, i start the anti estrogen out strong and then lower the dose. for instance if i was taking say novadex xt or formadrol, i would take for pills a day for the first week, 3 pills a day for the second week, and 2 pills a day til it's gone. i would run the test booster, something like hypertest, at the recommended dosage - 4 pills a night before bed. this is what i have always done for post cycle therapy (once i learned what a post cycle therapy was).

I think it should be the other way, ramping up your dosage of an AI.. Because, right after a cycle, you don't have much test floating around to be aromatized anyway, so why would you really need that much AI.. But as pct goes on, and your body gets back to producing more and more test, you have enough AI to prevent the aromitization of all this wonderful happy test floating around..


This is assuming you run a serm along with your AIs in pct.

[mbm]

Yea ive got some of that layin around somewhere....I'm glad I finally posted something...ive been anticipating my first cycle and have changed my game plan a million times over...definately want to get it right...good stuff guys good stuff

[mbm]

yeah i agree with ozarka on the ramping up...it only makes sence...and then ramp down as you approach your 8th week

[mbm]

Anyone with information about Post Cycle Support recommendations? Keep dose constant or ramp down? Havn't been able to find any info regarding it

[ozarkaBRAND]

Anyone with information about Post Cycle Support recommendations? Keep dose constant or ramp down? Havn't been able to find any info regarding it

maybe PM Crowler about it..

[TripDog]

Anyone with information about Post Cycle Support recommendations? Keep dose constant or ramp down? Havn't been able to find any info regarding it

I did 4 pills a day with my last pct