Which 4-AD cycle looks better?

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I have some older 4-AD(120 caps to be exact) that Im looking to cycle as a stand alone. This is my first ph run. Im 30yrs old been lifting for 10 years- 6'1 @ 205. BF %13. Just looking to do a stand alone cycle right now to see how my body responds to 4-AD. As you can see I will be ramping it back down towards the end so I will not implement post cycle therapy other than ZMA I will be adding into the last week.

1 wk 400mg(14 total)
2 wk 800mg(28 total)
3 wk 800mg(28 total)
4 wk 800mg(28 total)
5 wk 400mg(14 total)
6 wk 200mg(7 total)

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1 wk 400mg(14 total)
2 wk 600mg(21 total)
3 wk 600mg(21 total)
4 wk 600mg(21 total)
5 wk 600mg(21 total)
6 wk 400mg(14 total)
7 wk 200mg(7 total)

Both cycles use exactly 119 pills so I would have 1 pill left over. Also, feel free to change things around...that's why I posted it here:)
 
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I don't believe ramping down helps with PCT at all, it merely delays how long before you start to come back. My opinion is that you are better to run your dose till you run out, and do something more for PCT than ZMA as well. 4ad is a prohormone of testosterone, so it should cause significant shutdown. You also likely should be running an AI during the cycle to avoid bloat.
 
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I would probably use this in addition to something else and not alone. 800mg for 30 days is about the minimum that you could run this and still have it be effective with what you have. My recommendations for potential stackers are-

Any of these, but not all-
Furazadrol(150-200mg ed for 30 days)
Halo(50mg for 30 days-H-Drol, Hemadrol, Halovar)
Epithio(30mg for 30 days-Havoc, Epistane, Epidrol, Epithin-E)
 

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