For those who have tried 4-AD
- 01-16-2008, 09:50 PM
- 01-16-2008, 11:18 PM
Don't run it alone. You would see better results with Epi as a standalone oral. 4AD makes a great addition to a supressive cycle because it will help with lethargy, libido, overall mood, etc. So if you plan on running a more suppressive oral (ex: superdrol, methyl xt, max lmg to name a few) then you should definately run the 4AD alongside.
01-17-2008, 10:33 AM
01-17-2008, 11:48 AM
Id definately run 4-ad with a drier compound. 4-ad can arromatize which will make gains pretty wet. I personaly would stack it with an epi clone, OR you could stack it with MMv2 as thats a very dry compound, coverts to DHT which will provide some really lean mass, some fat loss, and nice strength gains!
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01-17-2008, 01:04 PM
4-AD is a really wet compound - every time Ive used it Ive needed estrogen suppression, even at moderate doeses.
01-17-2008, 03:23 PM
I would hope you are planning on using it transdermally? It much more efficient and cost effective this way.
Makes a great addition to something like superdrol or possibly havoc/epistane. I used many a time with short m1 test cycles transderamally to beat the lethargy and rapid shut down of the m1t.
and as has been said have nolva on hand and in sufficient quantities not only for post cycle therapy and plan to use it after the first week or so.
01-17-2008, 05:27 PM
Thanks for all the replies and good info....Im leaning towards not taking it since I know it would be hard on the liver since I would be taking it orally....maybe I'll wait and see if I can find a source for the "real" stuff.
01-17-2008, 05:39 PM
I have only done 4AD with M1T for obvious reasons. It was a very good cycle but I did need to take an AI throughout due to slight gyno onsets/bloat.
01-17-2008, 05:53 PM
01-17-2008, 05:53 PM
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