Designers and PH's on their way out??
- 01-09-2008, 09:21 PM
Designers and PH's on their way out??
I don't know if anyone but me has noticed this or that I'm just paranoid but, lately I seem to have noticed a disturbing trend!
It seems like a lot of sites on the web aren't carrying (or stocking) their usual amounts of ph's and designer supps anymore. Good clones of superdrol and phera are getting harder and harder to find. A lot of legit company's that used to make them have stopped producing them (SNS and EST are just a few that come to mind). Over at DA they are almost out of everything now and at Nutraplanet alone they are almost always out of M-drol, H-drol, Havoc, Epistane, and no longer carry most of the ph's and clones from EST or IDS (IDS is another story all together). An EST rep over at bb.com posted a few months ago some sh!t about them being ask to stop producing everything (hormonal) exept for propadrol and I think hemadrol.
So with all this drama with IBE, EST, and the infamous IDS and the number of companies no longer producing these supps and clones. My question is, are these supps disappearing into the abyss without us knowing or am I just the only one seeing this??
- 01-09-2008, 09:56 PM
- 01-09-2008, 10:40 PM
01-09-2008, 11:17 PM
01-09-2008, 11:19 PM
IBE just announced they will be restocking Epistane.
RPN just announced they will be restocking Havoc.
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01-09-2008, 11:41 PM
...and apparently Genera found some more Epidrol in their warehouse b/c it too seems to be back in stock at a few places...
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01-10-2008, 09:32 AM
I hope there not all disapearing but it doesn't look good... I know for a fact that SNS stopped producing Methyl Drol (SD) and Methyl Plex (PP) awhile ago and I was lucky enough to stock up on about 6 bottles of Methyl Drol and 6 of Methyl Plex before they disappeared... I haven't really been following the whole PH thing in awhile so who has the latest SD Clone? Cel?
01-10-2008, 09:32 PM
Alright, fcuk! I guess I wasn't just trippin. I knew sh!t was starting to disappear but wasn't aware of the severity or the depth of it. It looks like the FDA,(DEA) are keeping a pretty low profile on the situation.
To my knowledge Superdrol, Halodrol-50, Ergo Max and Phera-Plex were never officially banned or reclassified as controlled substances or steriods as such was the case with Andro (R.I.P).
Don't get me wrong I'm not going to fcuking kill myself if all this sh!t gets banned but it just straight up sucks @ss whenever more of OUR personal choices are taken away. So what the Hell is going on here exactly?? What is your guy's take on this whole thing??
01-11-2008, 09:46 AM
I just ordered 4 bottles of Epidrol yesterday. I'm hoping havoc and epistane both come back in stock so I can get a few bottles of them.
I am pretty sure superdrol is now considered illegal. My buddies brother is a parol officer who used the stuff a lot and had to stop not to long ago because it became a controlled substance or something... I don't remember exactly what he said, but I know getting cought taking it now isn't good.
01-11-2008, 01:41 PM
Espn did a undercover bust on one of the companys I forget what they called it but it apparently brought a lot of heat on those grey area supps
01-11-2008, 01:49 PM
Good lord 300+ views in one day looks like I'm not the only paranoid mother fcuker around here!! lol Anyone else got an opinion on the topic or what??
I would love to here from some one with some legal knowledge as to how companies are being apparently intimidated out of production of these clones and compounds even though (to my knowledge) they have not been, reclassified nor, officially banned!!!! I mean what's really going on here???
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01-11-2008, 02:00 PM
01-11-2008, 02:09 PM
01-11-2008, 04:07 PM
I am definitely worried about what will happen in the future. I think the '08 election will have an effect as well.
01-11-2008, 04:33 PM
I remember about 4 months ago a bill was going to be introduced banning DHEA. Making it only available by prescription and classing it as a steroid, along with the now infamous Andro contacting supps from the not so distant past. Interestingly enough creatine is also on the list of supplements they want to ban.
I was actually turned on to it by a web site called save our supplements, which many of you have probably heard of. If not you should defiantly check it out as there is a lot of information about the legality and future of American supplementation.
01-11-2008, 04:40 PM
I don't really care if these legal steroids get banned. In fact, there is a good side to this also. They are dangerous in the wrong hands and often end up causing more harm than good.
01-11-2008, 04:48 PM
this is crazy I can see banned methylated steroids but creatine and dhea is absurd I think it is a which hunt that politicians use to gain popularity. I would love to hear someone who knows their stuff debate with a stupid ass politician about sports supplementation, it would be amusing.
01-11-2008, 04:50 PM
01-11-2008, 04:59 PM
01-11-2008, 05:04 PM
01-11-2008, 06:05 PM
01-11-2008, 06:42 PM
01-11-2008, 08:18 PM
[QUOTE=Goat;1162133]Aw man, that urban legend has been going around for a year pr two at least. I think its even on Snopes.com. I think I heard it about 6 months after the andro ban.
I realize that there's been talk about this going on for years now, especially after the andro ban. But it's not looking like an urban legend right now. As the next wave of ph's and designers supps are already on their way out, and some are already gone!
01-11-2008, 10:24 PM
01-11-2008, 11:01 PM
Coming out with the next greatest Designer 6 days before the prior roundup is being banned is what keeps the man watching.
01-12-2008, 02:58 AM
One company makes PH clones, as the heat and attention goes up. They go out, and another company makes clones. As long as they are not illegal someone will make them.
01-12-2008, 07:54 AM
01-12-2008, 10:14 PM
Do you guys think another ban is on the way for supps like Super, Phera, Halo, and Epi, etc.?? And how far away do you think it really is??
01-12-2008, 10:16 PM
01-13-2008, 10:43 AM
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