Steroids and Fertility
- 01-04-2008, 07:08 PM
Steroids and Fertility
I really do not see this issue focussed on nearly as much as other possible steroid side effects. I suppose this issue doesn't affect everyone, but for those who consider healthy, safe and well educated long term use of AAS to accomplish their goals, what about the issue of male fertility problems? In perspective, many many athletes be they pro bodybuilders or whoever who use AAS regularly for years on end/ long periods of time still manage to be relatively fertile.
speaking to the well educated, planned, and health interested AAS user who is forecasting a future of AAS use.....we would be interested in prevention here. such as preventing a serious slow/halt in spermatogenesis. I know of the popular LH-like drug HCG is a popular ancillary such AAS users, and there is also the drug HMG (far less talked about). which is supposedly to FSH the way HCG is to LH.
any other's concerned about this issue related to their AAS usage?
- 01-06-2008, 04:39 AM
That's why there is 'cycle support' and 'PCT.'
Those who use irresponsibly will face some very unpleasant consequences.
- 01-06-2008, 05:01 AM
you only become infertile when you are ON a cycle because your natural test production is shut down or extremly low. when you are off cycle, with the aid of other substances your body starts to produce natural test again and you are fertile again.
01-06-2008, 03:34 PM
this is all just food for thought really......
how does the use of HCG while ON impact the situation?
01-06-2008, 05:39 PM
no one stays ON for "years" at a time. they cycle ON for 10-14 weeks then cycle OFF for several weeks, or enough time for natural test to return to normal. the people that stay on for extended periouds of time end up on the front page of the news for killing them selves or some kind of organ shut down/failure.
one of my favorite things about being ON is that its alot like being on male birth control. haha
01-06-2008, 07:03 PM
I wouldn't say ' no one stays ON for years'. There are plenty of guys that do. Sort of a blast n cruise, but the cruise part is more than enough T to keep them shut down @ 250mg/week.
Also, while it does diminish sperm production it certainly is not 100% effective male contraception. It was actually studied for this purpose in third-world countries and found to be ~80% effective IIRC. It took 2-3 months to consistently lower sperm counts to 0 in ~50% of the subjects and the remaining had 2-3 million sperms/mm of ejaculate. While it is down from the 2-3 billion of a normal person, its certainly not fail safe.
Not the odds I would bet against if I were not looking to have a kid.
01-06-2008, 07:37 PM
01-06-2008, 08:00 PM
dont tell the kids new setriod study
now, granted, the study group was fairly young - received treatment while teens to blunt growth, then retested some ten years later.
treatment lasted about a year. They all recovered fine.
gutterpump makes a remark about using hcg+hmg to keep sperm-fsh-Lh elevated.
check it out
01-06-2008, 09:36 PM
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