Tren Xtreme + AH-89

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most have heard a lot about Tren Xtreme (19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione) (i think) by American Cellular Labs, but I havn't heard much about AH-89 (5a-androstano[3,2-c] pyrazole-3-one-17b-ol-THP-ether)., supposedly it's a non methly, and it's "esterfied" winstrol (opposed to methylated)...then I found other info that said it's merely an H-Drol clone

can I get some feedback on these products, such as actual compounds and what they are derived from...and maybe a little info about the sides, from those of you who haved used them...

thanks