Originally posted by PC1
From a Health Insurance perspective, if coverage is denied because of abuse of a controlled substance, it will make no difference if the patient "admits" it or not if it is known to the physician, ER staff, and health insurance company.
Ok, prove that to me by example or written policy or STFU. Unless blood tests are done, there will be no way to tell unless the patient admits it. Are you saying if a doc "suspects" AS use that he will inform an insurance company? Prove it or get the hell out. IMHO a fever of 99, while still important to analyze, is not threatening enough that one should immedialtely spill their guts. If one chooses to do that, fine, but I wouldn't. I would cool down for the night, relax, make sure all supps except vitamins and protein are stopped, monitor temp continually, and not do the next days' tren inject, then assess. This is of course, unless it started to rise significantly. That's my opinion and advice, some will agree, some won't.
Originally posted by PC1
Not to diminish the financial impact of an uninsured trip to the ER, but the patient's health is the PRIMARY concern, and was the subject if this post. I understand the need for mods generally to watch each other's backs on this board.
But JWeave has now suggested BuffJersey conceal AS usage from his doctor, irrespective of whether or not AS may be causing him problems. There were no qualifiers to this recommendation that mentioned insurance coverage..
A patient puts his care in the hands his physician upon admittance, NOT in the hands of online buddies and mods. Advising guys on how they may cycle androgens, nutrition and training is one thing. Recommending AS usage/abuse be concealed from one's physician is something else altogether, the line needs to BE DRAWN..
1. You WILL NOT be the one to decide how this forum is run and the content of the advice or manner in which it is given. You may certainly give us input on how you feel things should be run, we encourage that here by all members, but your approach has done nothing but incite an argument. If you want to give constructive criticism, fine, but unless you're looking to be "unwelcome", I'd try another approach than attempting to make me seem as though I am giving hazardous advice and that I am a danger to anyone here.
If you wish to prove that, then please tell me more about how a fever of 99 degrees (which is not uncommon in tren or test cycles it seems...unfortunately) would be so dangerous that if one CHOSE to follow my advice, they would ultimately suffer undue medical problems. If this person's fever rose significantly I would personally tell them to go to a doc, but if they have to ask me that as they're burning alive....well where the **** is personal repsonsibility anymore?!
Originally posted by PC1
Are you two capable of admitting a mistake? Will you tell BuffJersey and everyone else reading these boards that for the sake of their own health, if they are experiencing adverse side effects on an androgen cycle that they NEED to be honest and up front with their physician/medical practitioners when they go in for a visit?
No, not necessarily, and screw you for thinking your way is the only way of looking at things. Ok jackass, let me spell this out for you:
THERE ARE INHERENT RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE OF AAS, IF ONE IS NOT PREPARED WITH HOW ONE MAY DEAL WITH THESE, THEN ONE SHOULD NOT BE USING THEM.
These risks include undesireable side effects, some of which may require immediate mediacl attention, and some of which are preveantable and treatable without medical care. Distinguishing between the two is for the user to decide, and hopefully he/she has researched enough to make a good decision.
Your presumptious and arrogant posts make me cringe, and I believe you need to open
your mind some.
Allow me to clarify:
