1000mg of var - can I make a cycle out of that?
- 11-27-2007, 06:16 PM
1000mg of var - can I make a cycle out of that?
183lb, very low bf
6 feet tall
clean for two years
no androgens is a must
oral only cycle needed
I'm settled on var - I think
Reasons for a short cycle
2. liver and lipids
Would 40mg for 25 days make a cycle?
Perhaps even make it a month long at a slightly lower dose? I've read some much bigger guys doing well off 40-50mg.
even a few pounds would be satisfactory
enjoyment of being on will be good too, even for a short while.
I might have to go for 2000mg and can always order some more mid cycle. But I want your thoughts on the likelyhood of achieving my goal for this cycle (post post cycle therapy 3-5lb).
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- 11-27-2007, 06:55 PM
11-27-2007, 07:05 PM
4 weeks of var in december
4 weeks of var in march
8 weeks of var in dec and jan
May 08, would they bring about the same result, or does var need to be run for longer than 4 weeks? As an oral, I would have thought the half life was well suited to short runs like 4 weeks?
11-27-2007, 11:41 PM
Honestly you can get the same results with some of the natural products that are currently out, for probably a lot cheaper. Var solo is hardly ever worth it.
Just my two cents.
11-27-2007, 11:52 PM
Talkin about Anavar. Yea its great i hear if you got the money and can get enough.
Id say go for somethign else. Why no androgens? I mean no offense man but ifyour goin to cycle then run something cheaper and easier. There isplenty out there to help you on cycle with health and PCT.
11-27-2007, 11:56 PM
H-drol, 2 bottles, 5-6 weeks, do it.
11-27-2007, 11:59 PM
11-28-2007, 05:13 AM
im with everyone else, why var? You can get more for less with other stuff. I was going to suggest 40mg for 25 days just like you did but honestly that would be a waste. People usually use var for over a month, most common is 8 weeks. I imagine that is because it is so very mild, esp at 40mg.....its usually not enough to see much of anything. Creatine would probably give you just as much if not more gains then 40mg of var would. Leave it to the ladies...
11-28-2007, 10:17 AM
have any of you that posted done a cycle of var?
11-28-2007, 10:44 AM
No because its so expensive. We arent sayin it not good. But there are alternatives out there just as good forway less. Although if youre goin to be hung up on sides i guess go for it.
Just like was said before itll have to be a long cycle because you wont see any results for at least 4-5 weeks in from what ive read if not more.
11-28-2007, 01:53 PM
i don't know i've been researching it and i've seen alot of people that have run it for 4 weeks and had great results. I would personally run it for 6 weeks along with proviron to minimize sides and keep the libido up, also the proviron will actually make the anavar more active. everyone will respond diffrently though. i took ph's but i'm done with that. no one knows what the long trem side effects are going to be and alot of people including myself that are not prone to gyno have had flare ups. anavar has been around since the 60's and side effects are well known. i think if people are giong to use ph's they might as weel just get the real ****. unless there worried about legal issues which is completely unedrstandable.
11-28-2007, 03:38 PM
Excellent question joeymutz.
To answer Puzzle's original question I would run it longer then 4 weeks. Var is one of those compounds where you just start seeing the good stuff happen after 2 weeks or so. Var is very mild on the body but in my eyes is one of the best anabolic steroids out. Produces keepable gains and is very easy on the body.
Also to say creatine will be just as good if not better is just crazy. And for the record from someone who has used var numerous times there is nothing like it on the market. The recomp effects and vascularity matched with the dry lean keepable gains are unmatched hence why people pay have paid the high price for years.
Oh and Puzzle your libido will take a hit on var which is why it's best to run some test with it.
11-28-2007, 03:50 PM
i've been researching proviron also and if someone that doesnt want to pin or cant make a transdermal test i think they should use proviron to help with libido and keep the balls from shrinking. Test would def be a better option from what i've read your gains would be very good if added some but some people like myself just prefer not to pin. Also i would just like to look harder, fuller, and more cut and keep it and thats exactly whar anavar will do. jminis how long did u run var for and at what dose?
11-28-2007, 05:22 PM
I've ran var for 10 weeks on my last run in the summer at 50mg/day. Hell i've run it at 80mg/day. Note: I didnt notice much of a difference so save your money.
11-28-2007, 05:42 PM
Were you using pharma grade Var? I believe the reason why Var often gets a bad rap is because most people who have used it, and subsequently reported sub par results, had purchased catchpenny UG var; which may evidently be anyhing but var.Also, most aren't able to purchase authentic var, due to its scarcity and hefty premium. It really is a gem if you have the real mcCoy.
11-28-2007, 06:25 PM
11-28-2007, 11:20 PM
11-29-2007, 02:27 AM
thanks for chiming in jminis and good point on the UG var too. I believe alot of sources probably sell winstrol as var and make some nice profit.
11-29-2007, 03:42 AM
It will be British Dragon anavar, and I'm confident it will be legit.
12-03-2007, 02:32 PM
I can also get Axio var, which some claim is 4x more potent than regular var. That sounds odd. :/ But it's a safe brand, I know that much.
12-03-2007, 04:54 PM
I've done a lot of var, and 40mg is not an insignificant daily dose, but it's been repeated ad nauseum that 4 weeks is a bit light on duration, but it's certainly worth it, IMO. At 183 you'd see nice results on 30mg for 8 weeks.
12-03-2007, 05:11 PM
12-03-2007, 05:29 PM
Thanks for that riskarb.
have you ever run var alone? If so, how was your libido?
12-04-2007, 07:04 PM
I've run var solo the last few cycles. My libido is good on tren, so perhaps I'm not the best to ask, but I've never noticed much impact <80mg.
12-06-2007, 06:24 PM
ip var., cee, and test c cycles
the question is it safe to cycle them more than three weeks after all they are liver toxins?
12-06-2007, 07:15 PM
I wouldn't trust IP var. The cat's var is good stuff, but he's stopped taking new customers.
12-06-2007, 10:00 PM
ouch, i was going to beg. Anyway why IP shouldnt be trust?
12-07-2007, 08:19 AM
i got bulk anavar 5gr for $75 i'm just going to suspend it in EVOO and add a little 151 to it. there was no way i was going to spend 200 dollars for 6 weeks worth.
12-11-2007, 05:06 PM
I think im going to run var for 8 weeks @ 70mg ed for my 12 week cut, has anyone done this b4? i just want it to hold onto muscle and maintain strenght! also i've heard var makes you look more vascular at lower bf %
12-11-2007, 05:18 PM
12-11-2007, 08:32 PM
well for bodybuilders it can be, for someone like me i dont want to be much bigger then 175. doing a 6 week cycle of anavar at 40-50mg should get me from about 11% bf to 8% without losing any muscle and most likely gaining a couple pounds of muscle. the great thing about anavar is that the gains are very easy to maintain since they are so little. If your pretty lean this will make u look leaner, harder and fuller. so this is exactly what im looking for. if your trying to get hyooge i wouldn't suggest anavar.
12-11-2007, 10:33 PM
dude, there is a lot safier way to get just lean muscle either Steroids or supplement. Anavar is oral that can eventually put a lot of stress in your liver. Your dose is wrong, search for anavar calculator and there it tells the proper dosage for your weight.
In my case im only doing it every end of my cycle or say the climax of each cycle.
12-12-2007, 08:29 AM
i appreciate yur concern but i've been lifting consistently for over 4 years and have been doing research hours a day about steroids, diet, nutrition, and everything else to do with lifting that you can think of. Anavar calculator? hahaha your funny. do some research please. yes anavar is toxic to the liver. but not that toxic. people over hype the toxicity levels. i have taken ph's and designer steroids before and have come to the conclusion that i would rather take a steriod with known side effects from 1960's then take something that came out a year ago. one again thanks for your concern but your preaching to the wrong quire. how old are you? how many cycles have you done? maybe you know something i don't know. but i know i have researched anavar for months so i doubt it.
12-12-2007, 09:52 AM
at 20mg/day var is noticable to me over being natural. it doesn't produce massive results, but it does give slow steady gains. 1g isn't a lot, but 20mg/day for ~7wks... if your in a calorie deficit and workouts stay intense that dose should be sufficient to see some descent results
12-15-2007, 10:29 AM
Var is more subtle in it's apprach and doesn't bother with trying to impress the scale. Var is more sophisticated then it's brothers and sisters. Slow and steady with veins popping every step of the way. If Var was a women she would be the girl next door who is honest and reliable while dbol and drol would be a tall blonde with lip injects and double D implants. Choose carefully.ose:
12-15-2007, 10:36 AM
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12-15-2007, 10:41 AM
12-15-2007, 12:30 PM
Thanks BP and GNC yes it does. I felt a sudden rush of inspiration hence the var analogy.
12-15-2007, 03:02 PM
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