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What is the detection time for Havoc/Epistane?

TCAthlete

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I can't seem to find this information anywhere (including trying to contact IBE and RPN themselves) so if any of you want to show off your superior knowledge of supplements here's the place to do it.

Simply, I'd like to know how long it takes for Havoc/Epistane to be out of your system. Some of us may have to take drug tests and of course I want to come up clean. Thanks.
 
You haven't found any information because Epi isn't scheduled.. its a new compound. If anything your test levels will be a little high... but the cause of that won't be detected. Besides... most drug tests only test for narcotics, etc... not hormones. You should be fine.
 
swoody said:
You haven't found any information because Epi isn't scheduled.. its a new compound. If anything your test levels will be a little high... but the cause of that won't be detected. Besides... most drug tests only test for narcotics, etc... not hormones. You should be fine.
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What I'm referring to is drug testing for athletic competition under the guidelines of the US Anti-Doping Agency. I believe they do test for anti-estrogens and such and I don't plan to try to beat the test, I just want to know how long I would need to be off.
 
TCAthlete said:
What I'm referring to is drug testing for athletic competition under the guidelines of the US Anti-Doping Agency. I believe they do test for anti-estrogens and such and I don't plan to try to beat the test, I just want to know how long I would need to be off.
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Its not an anti-estrogen, at least not one that they test for. It might test positive if it breaks down to a metabolite they test for but who knows?

I suggest you dont use it if you dont want to test positive. In fact I suggest you dont use it because it would be cheating and only wimps and puss1es cheat.
 
FrankJ said:
Its not an anti-estrogen, at least not one that they test for. It might test positive if it breaks down to a metabolite they test for but who knows?

I suggest you dont use it if you dont want to test positive. In fact I suggest you dont use it because it would be cheating and only wimps and puss1es cheat.
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:goodpost:

it's sad that you think you have to use something to excell in sports :nutkick:
 
is it ok for bodybuilders to use prohormones? Isnt bodybuilding a sport?

but seriously i would stay away from anything that could mess you up. Why throw away all the work you put into your sport just for a small edge.
 
timmay8989 said:
is it ok for bodybuilders to use prohormones? Isnt bodybuilding a sport?

but seriously i would stay away from anything that could mess you up. Why throw away all the work you put into your sport just for a small edge.
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prohormones and steroids effects are FAR more pronounced in the sport of weightlifting or bodybuilding.

not sure how well it works in other more athletic sports that require things such as hand eye coordination, reaction times, etc.

but again, if your federation you are under banned it , please dont take it.
 
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