Poll: What did Phera Plex do to YOUR libido?

Phera Plex and Libido

  1. Phera Plex and Libido


    I'm about to start a CEL P-Plex cycle thats gonna last a month, but I don't want any libido issues during or after, can't disapoint the GF

    I'm 6' 175 lbs. ~10% bf

    Weeks 1-4: P Plex ED, Support supps (multi, milk thistle, hawthorne berry,nac, niacin, coq10, msm etc) maybe cell tech on heavy days

    Weeks 2-6: Formestane 150mg ED, support supps

    Week 4: Creatine Kre-Alkalyn and Cell Tech

    Week 5-8 Ralox (dosage ?) and Clomid (25mg ED) tapering down, support supps

    If libido issues arise I have-

    Fenugreek
    Tribulus (works great when I take more then a gram a day
    Yohimbe
    Formestane (never used it before but I hear it really helps libido)
    Cabergoline
    Bromocriptine ( won't ever use this **** again made me yak for a day straight I thought i was going to die)

    Also how bad is the acne compared to other methyls like M1T?

    Comments, suggestions welcome


  2. If you have Libido concerns, you may want to grab a bottle of Aspire 36... Although I've never had any Libido problems on PP, some people have. Oh, and I cannot get over the fact you are going to use Dat Der Cell-Tech... priceless!

  3. What is with week 4? Shouldn't you use the stronger stuff at the beginning to jump start your cycle? jk.I ran two pp cycles, and they were by far the most enjoyable,(despite the enlarged heart)again jk, and least suppressive. Never had a libido issue. Good Luck with your cycle.
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  4. Runner- What do mean stronger stuff? I am only using PP the whole way through.
    Could you tell that your "heart was enlarged"?? cause I dont want that


    Matthew- cell tech i'm old school like that lol I like to take what I know works i use the Kre alkalyn along with it now though.



    Thanks again !!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by MkUltra View Post
    Runner- What do mean stronger stuff? I am only using PP the whole way through.
    Could you tell that your "heart was enlarged"?? cause I dont want that


    Matthew- cell tech i'm old school like that lol I like to take what I know works i use the Kre alkalyn along with it now though.



    Thanks again !!
    i editted above. these would be jokes...

  6. i don't believe 6'0 175 should be cycling, you can fill up a lot of muscle with some natural progress and eating. But to answer your question, i ran PP and saw no significant change in libido, didn't go up nor down.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    i don't believe 6'0 175 should be cycling, you can fill up a lot of muscle with some natural progress and eating. But to answer your question, i ran PP and saw no significant change in libido, didn't go up nor down.
    How did you respond to it, overall? Good gains?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post
    How did you respond to it, overall? Good gains?
    if there's anything i've learned from my 2 cycle history its that i need higher doses. I ran it 30/30/30 and then a few more days and my gains came early on and slowed down, i should have went to 45. I think next time i run Phera i'll do 30/30/45/45 if i don't do a bridge. Pheras a good compound, i had basically no sides other than feeling unstoppable in the weightroom.

  9. I just stated my 2nd week of P-plex at 30mg ed, and libido is WAY up, i mean, annoying my girlfriend up. I was concerned with the prior to starting this cycle, bc last time i ran PP and SD with a 6 week split, and I am pretty sure that is what caused it to crash. I couldnt be happier with my results thus far. Weight is up, strength is up, and libido is up. I start adding winztrol tomorrow, and am hoping that will help dry me out a bit, as I have noticed I have started to hold some water weight.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by monster stealth View Post
    I just stated my 2nd week of P-plex at 30mg ed, and libido is WAY up, i mean, annoying my girlfriend up. I was concerned with the prior to starting this cycle, bc last time i ran PP and superdrol with a 6 week split, and I am pretty sure that is what caused it to crash. I couldnt be happier with my results thus far. Weight is up, strength is up, and libido is up. I start adding winztrol tomorrow, and am hoping that will help dry me out a bit, as I have noticed I have started to hold some water weight.
    sounds about right, manypeople report increased libido on PP and decreased libido on superdrol (or initial increase followed by huge decrease).

    I also read logs of people saying PP increased their appetite but i neveer had that

  11. How has phera been on your hairline (anyone who's used it). Ive heard its pretty rough in that regard and Im def prone. I wanted to do a 3-4 week cycle but Ive got to keep the bit of hair Ive got left for atleast 6 months (promise to the fiance for our wedding). After that, a bic razor or hair transplant surgery will be on the schedule.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by z28man View Post
    How has phera been on your hairline (anyone who's used it). Ive heard its pretty rough in that regard and Im def prone. I wanted to do a 3-4 week cycle but Ive got to keep the bit of hair Ive got left for atleast 6 months (promise to the fiance for our wedding). After that, a bic razor or hair transplant surgery will be on the schedule.
    If you go the transplant route, I suggest that you check out the forum at The Hair Transplant Network (google it). You'll find a surgeon that knows what he's doing through that resource. Mind you, there are only about 40 or so in the U.S. who actually do a quality job.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by z28man View Post
    How has phera been on your hairline (anyone who's used it). Ive heard its pretty rough in that regard and Im def prone. I wanted to do a 3-4 week cycle but Ive got to keep the bit of hair Ive got left for atleast 6 months (promise to the fiance for our wedding). After that, a bic razor or hair transplant surgery will be on the schedule.
    0 shedding here but like i said i had basically no side effects

  14. Quote Originally Posted by dhuge67 View Post
    If you go the transplant route, I suggest that you check out the forum at The Hair Transplant Network (google it). You'll find a surgeon that knows what he's doing through that resource. Mind you, there are only about 40 or so in the U.S. who actually do a quality job.
    Thanks bro, Ive been wondering where to look for reputable docs.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by z28man View Post
    Thanks bro, Ive been wondering where to look for reputable docs.
    No problem. I've been there and done that. I'm only 22 but I've had a procedure. I actually began losing my hair in 11th grade (wasn't taking supplements or lifting at the time, so it's genetic).

    The procedure worked, but I'll need 2 more in the future. I knew this beforehand, as that was one of the main issues. Usually it takes 2-3 surgeries to complete a job, depending on the level of balding or age of the patient.

    In my case, I'm young so the procedure wasn't too aggressive.

    It'll be a good while before I get anything else done (3 years or so), but it should be all taken care of before I hit age 30, and i'll have a normal-looking head of hair for the rest of my life from that point on.

    In my opinion, that's better than getting something done when you're like 55 or 60...when you can't get girls anyway! hahaha

  16. phera didnt alter my sex drive but i did lose a little hair on it, im with unreal, ive been in the game for almost 6 years now and if theres one thing i can safely say is that i do not respond well to low doses. 500mg test does nothing for me cept make me horny while 750 is where i grow. phera at 30mg made me harder and more vascular but phera at 45 made me grow. everybody reacts differently so see how it works for u. PP is a strong hormone so be safe

  17. never any libido problems with PP, makes you just get hard whenever the time is right, even when your not thinking of sex, and orgasms feel great.

  18. Wasn't Phera sold as a sexual aid by ALRI before it was sold as a prohormone?

  19. Haha! "The occasional softy" I love it

  20. "maybe cell tech on heavy days"

    good luck with that

  21. Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    never any libido problems with PP, makes you just get hard whenever the time is right, even when your not thinking of sex, and orgasms feel great.
    This has also been my experience. Gotta love the Phera for that!

  22. Would running a DHT blocker along side PP help keep the hair loss down or would that prohibit gains?

  23. probably both.

  24. if i run Phera-bol (20mg-4weeks) with Clomid my libido will stay up and my gains too? (phera-bol is a phera-plex clone)

    I run mass Xtreme(phera plex clone) (20mg-4weeks) but my libido was destroyed, but the gains was incredible (22 POUNDS, but with fat)

    please i want to run the phera-plex once again, but without this loss of libido during the cycle...

    Any suggestions? AMS regulation stack? Havoc/epistane??
    thanks

    (sorry for my english)

  25. options

    drugs

    clomiphene?
    tamoxifene?
    formestane?
    toremifene?

    Suplements

    Novedex XT


    any suggestion??

  26. somone told me that 3-AD is non-methlyated pheraplex....I lost my libido COMPLETELY on 3-AD and quit 14 days in.

    So any connection with pheraplex?

    Havoc shot my libido sky high this time around.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post
    somone told me that 3-AD is non-methlyated pheraplex....I lost my libido COMPLETELY on 3-AD and quit 14 days in.

    So any connection with pheraplex?

    Havoc shot my libido sky high this time around.
    I never heard that about the 3AD, however if someone else could chime in, Id be interested. My libido was unaffected by PP

  28. I voted "I don't know" because Phera gave me a huge boost while on, but a crash just as huge during PCT. Never doing Phera again.

  29. oh i hope my libido doesn't go down
  

  
 

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