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    How many PS/PH Cycles have you run? How many are too many?


    I'm in the middle of my 1st PH run with M-Drol, and starting to really see great gains. I'm already looking forward and thinking about a new cycle. Health is my first consideration, so I am going to be doing time on + PCT = time off before doing another.

    How many PH/PS cycles have you run? Do you think that is too many? How many is TOO many, basing this off of health concerns? Would pulsing future cycles be better after doing a full 3 (maybe 4 week M-Drol cycle now)?

    BTW, my next cycle would be around Jan-Feb which is when I will start cutting.

    Thanks!

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    i personally only do about 2 maybe 3 cycles in a year. A lot of it will depend on how you handle any sides. you have any sides yet? just make sure you plan out everything real good and dont start another one til you have everything on hand that you might need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyroom28 View Post
    I'm in the middle of my 1st PH run with M-Drol, and starting to really see great gains. I'm already looking forward and thinking about a new cycle. Health is my first consideration, so I am going to be doing time on + post cycle therapy = time off before doing another.

    How many PH/PS cycles have you run? Do you think that is too many? How many is TOO many, basing this off of health concerns? Would pulsing future cycles be better after doing a full 3 (maybe 4 week M-Drol cycle now)?

    BTW, my next cycle would be around Jan-Feb which is when I will start cutting.

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    First off, if health was indeed your "first consideration", you would NOT be running M-Drol. It is a superdrol clone and superdrol is well known to destroy your lipids (i.e. raise LDL and drastically reduce HDL).

    Not trying to be a d*ck or anything but the reality is that those of us who decide to cycle do so by balancing risk with reward. That said, my opinion is that 3 four week cycles is about the max. you should consider in any given year.

    Are the adverse effects of PH use cumulative? Does serious risk to your health increase with each successive cycle? I'm not sure anyone has proved this but it would not be surprising. Be safe.
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    thanks for the replies. M-Drol is killing me with lethargy and feeling like crap overall, but I have been gaining a lot of size and strength. I would plan to do 2 a year, one for bulk and and one for cut.
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    Study up on any substance you plan to use, take appropriate time off, use proper ancillaries, liver care, cholesterol care, bloodwork, etc., and don't overrun your cycles; do them and then get out! That way you can continue to do them for years and years safely and effectively. I'd also say that 2-3 per year would be best, unless they are super quick and mild. For the longer AAS cycles, it's like 1-2 per year.
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    As far as the actual thread is concerned...I personally have ran* 4 designer cycles in my life.

    1 PP in 2005
    1 SD/ZOL in 2006
    1 P25 in 2007
    1 Havoc in 2007

    ...and I will most likely never run one again.



    *Is ran or run the correct verb usage???
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    I've only run a couple new items, and used to run the old school ph's, and my uneducated opinion would be 2-3 per year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Packenwood View Post
    I've only run a couple new items, and used to run the old school ph's, and my uneducated opinion would be 2-3 per year.
    my educated opinion agrees with yours.

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    2 - 1Test/4AD

    I usually play it on the cautious side and only run 1 cycle per year...although I havent touched any hormones in about 3 years.

    Thinking of a Epistane pulse to help with an upcoming cut though...

    bv
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    Run is both a past and present participle, ran would only be a past. I.e., you could say "this cycle is being run by a friend of mine right now" or "my friend ran this cycle last year".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Run is both a past and present participle, ran would only be a past. I.e., you could say "this cycle is being run by a friend of mine right now" or "my friend ran this cycle last year".
    thanks...but umm, which is the correct usage for my statement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    thanks...but umm, which is the correct usage for my statement?
    your original statement sounds right. dont trip

    On topic...i think 1 cycle a year is better in the long run for you HPTA and overall health, of course right? I say the norm is 2-3 a year. This will probably be my most active year with 4 months total so far and probably add another 2 months to that. In a year you should probably stick with less then 6 months of being 'on' anyway.
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    Ran would have been PI. You could have also said "these are the cycles I have run", but you could not have said "these are the cycles I have ran". Pertains to the subject and object. Don't ask me why I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Ran would have been PI. You could have also said "these are the cycles I have run", but you could not have said "these are the cycles I have ran". Pertains to the subject and object. Don't ask me why I know.
    thanks, grammar was never my strong suit.
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    Hooked on Phonics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Hooked on Phonics?
    no...pot.
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    I was suggesting a fix..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I was suggesting a fix..lol
    so was i.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    so was i.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    hey PI, blow me.
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    Stay on topic people....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    Thats what I have nyc for, to do my dirty work.

    In the end, it's all the same.


    Sorry BigV.
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    What about injectable cycles? How many does everyone think is too many. Too me time ON is the more important part of this.

    So do you all think two injectable cycles of 15 weeks is too many in one year? I would think this would be okay but I am guessing year after year of this and it could eventually lead to some long term cholesterol issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    In the end, it's all the same.


    Sorry BigV.
    PI, why do you say you'll never run a PH again? Are you "moving up" to better things, so to speak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    Some people don't even come off, cough jomi, and hes still alive and kickin.
    Yeah I now that. Psssh, I'm just curious to hear from the guys that actually care about their long term health (unlike you Mr. come off a whole month!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    PH's arn't worth it. If you can get legit stuff, its better.
    I agree, PHs are good when you're looking for or transitioning from a source. Real deal will always win, its actually tested so you know exactly what you are taking and the clinical studies on it.

    Best to move on to the real thing that worry about going too heavy on PHs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    hey PI, blow me.
    haha.. didnt even realize your avi was megan fox too... she has to be one of the hottest chicks around... i dig dark hair and light eyes...
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    As for as "real deal" oral-only cycles go, I think t-bol would be a good choice. No bloat, doesn't convert to estrogen, etc.
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    do you guys think 2 10-12 week inj. cycles a year is over board? what about three?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer82 View Post
    Some people don't even come off, cough jomi, and hes still alive and kickin.
    Yes, but for how many years has he been on? Also, there may be issues in the future. But I don't know anything about AAS, I'm just talking out of my ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGG DOGG View Post
    do you guys think 2 10-12 week inj. cycles a year is over board? what about three?
    Classical style is 2 a year, a winter bulker and a summer cutter, if you stick to only 2 a year you could run them heavier than if you were going for 3.

    Two isn't overboard its just right. 3 and you'd have to run them shorter and lighter.
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    In the end, it's all the same.


    Sorry BigV.
    Thats what I have nyc for, to do my dirty work.


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    Stay on topic people....

    Sorry. That was my final word.


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    I've run loads of ds cycles. Not sure the number.

    For reasons of safety i will be moving on to injectables soon.

    Plus people seem to get better results from injectable gear.
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    thing is if you want to be on TRT the rest of your life cycle all you want as often as you want for all i care. Im just worried about losing natural test production. Cholesterol? eh, the fat guy down the road has more to worry about imo haha. Staying on for a year for instance, i cant help but think about the drop off once you come off. No matter what people will say, SERM HCG or whatever i dont think your body can recover quickly enough after being shutdown for really extended periods of time. Do you want to be in your 20's or 30's and be hypogonadal or whatever its called. Having serious issues at such a young age? If losing your natural testosterone production doesnt bother you then go for it but 20 years from now youll be big, saggy, and rundown and ill be happy, healthy, and saving money on AAS.
  

  
 

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