Freaking out - help me with Gyno - M-Drol Cycle

[hockeyroom28]

OK I am freaking out about gyno right now. I am on Day 9 of a 3 week M-Drol cycle. Doing 10-20-20. I have Letro on hand.

Please check out these pictures and let me know. The last picture is pre M-Drol

I'm really freaking out right now so any advice please

 

[UNCfan1]

OK I am freaking out about gyno right now. I am on Day 9 of a 3 week M-Drol cycle. Doing 10-20-20. I have Letro on hand.

Please check out these pictures and let me know. The last picture is pre M-Drol

I'm really freaking out right now so any advice please

U look fine to me. Maybe I am not seeing it.

 

[hockeyroom28]

what makes you think i dont

 

[UNCfan1]

what makes you think i dont

Ur chest has good shape to it, it looks fine to me. I will let others chime in that have had it before.

What makes u think u have it?

 

[aspire210]

do you have a lump? thats a good way to tell. It'll feel like a marble under the nipple.

 

[UnrealMachine]

i was expecting pictures of gyno

i think you're just freaking out, unless you can feel the lump and have nipple sensitivity

 

[UNCfan1]

i was expecting pictures of gyno

i think you're just freaking out, unless you can feel the lump and have nipple sensitivity

I didn't think I was going crazy.


Were u expecting this:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19044&stc=1&d=1192594690

 

[UnrealMachine]

I didn't think I was going crazy.


Were u expecting this:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19044&stc=1&d=1192594690

dammit bro now i'm going to have trouble sleeping lol

 

[ECTOmorph]

is mdrol superdrol clone?

i see the gyno the op is talking about, basically same thing happened to me 4 days into SD cycle

do u guys not see how puffy his nips are?

id stop cycle now and run an ai and serm

 

[hockeyroom28]

im not sure if there is a lump or not, its harder, but different than chest muscle, but not really lumpy

 

[hockeyroom28]

what should I do with Letro? Should I start that?

 

[hockeyroom28]

if I do Letro, do I do it on cycle or end the cycle?

 

[neoborn]

Perhaps read this:

@@@ Gyno Questions - Please Read This First @@@ - Bodybuilding.com Forums

Much Love,

Neoborn

 

[pistonpump]

shut up neo. :nutkick:

 

[neoborn]

By your avatar PP I can see that your gyno is coming along nicely...nice t!tt!es. :ntome:

Much love,

Neoborn

 

[edwards]

If you look at his "before superdrol pic" it has the same puffyness to it. Thats my observation. Take it for what its worth.

Do they itch?

is mdrol superdrol clone?

i see the gyno the op is talking about, basically same thing happened to me 4 days into superdrol cycle

do u guys not see how puffy his nips are?

id stop cycle now and run an ai and serm

 

[LilPsychotic]

I didn't think I was going crazy.


Were u expecting this:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19044&stc=1&d=1192594690

Thats not f*ckin funny

 

[PumpingIron]

You had gyno before you even started...

search the forum for pubesant gyno and ways to get rid of it.

 

[MentalTwitch]

my nipples are soft and smooth...anyways..

I see no difference in anything. I think youre having placebo sides broski. I have need nips like that before and they were on larger males with les muscle mass in their chest.

I think if there is no ithcing, swelling, sensitivity, lump then you are ok. Just monitor and dont freak out. You have a SERM most dont even do that at the begining of a cycle.

 

[KingMeso]

OK I am freaking out about gyno right now. I am on Day 9 of a 3 week M-Drol cycle. Doing 10-20-20. I have Letro on hand.

Please check out these pictures and let me know. The last picture is pre M-Drol

I'm really freaking out right now so any advice please

This is going to sound gross, but when it's cold, does the "gyno" disappear?

 

[MentalTwitch]

This is going to sound gross, but when it's cold, does the "gyno" disappear?

Did you se the picture above?! youre in the safe zone.

 

[pistonpump]

itching is something i always look out for. It is a sign that gyno is forming from my estimate. A lump and extra sensitivity usually means it is already started.

 

[KingMeso]

You had gyno before you even started...

search the forum for pubesant gyno and ways to get rid of it.

Is pubesant gyno the same as 'puffy nips syndrome'? Would that go away when one would lose fat in that area?

I was trying to find more information for hockeyroom by searching 'pubesant gyno', but it took my back to this thread. :think:

 

[KingMeso]

Did you se the picture above?! youre in the safe zone.

Good point. :lol:

 

[hockeyroom28]

im still worried lol but thanks for the info guys...i think it is possible i have pubescent gyno since i was pretty chubby/fat from 7th grade to college

 

[UNCfan1]

I thought in all of the pictures he looked the same, yes maybe a slight puffiness but I have seen guys with nipples like that. My friend has nipples like that and he hasn't used any steroids.

 

[neoborn]

1. Is it itching ?.

2. Is there a A lump?

3.Is there extra sensitivity as this usually means it is already started?

Just hacking PP quote cause the content was there. How about you answer and we can then either help you or stop this thread there?

Much Love,

Neoborn

Hey PP?......shut it! :stick:

 

[Travis]

I thought in all of the pictures he looked the same, yes maybe a slight puffiness but I have seen guys with nipples like that. My friend has nipples like that and he hasn't used any steroids.

I agree, just looks like some puffy nips from the hormonal changes.

 

[neoborn]

Is there a reason his nips are pointing towards east n west? Would developing the outer edge help with this? Over developed towards the sternum?

 

[ECTOmorph]

I agree, just looks like some puffy nips from the hormonal changes.

Isnt puffyness usually the begining of gyno though?

 

[hockeyroom28]

there is no soreness or itchyness, it is a little harder underneath

 

[Movin_weight]

puffy nips usually means theres somethin goin on in there, but doesn't neccessarily mean you'll start developing tissue... keep an eye on it, if you start feeling knots and lumps under the nip, then you'll wan't to take action

and just for the record i'v had several flare ups on cycle and only once did I have sensitivity or pain, so i wouldn't wait for that

 

[Australian made]

if you start feeling knots and lumps under the nip, then you'll wan't to take action

should the cycle be immediately stopped and begin PCT or can Nolva during cycle help out?

 

[pistonpump]

should the cycle be immediately stopped and begin post cycle therapy or can Nolva during cycle help out?

ive tried to fight thru during a long cycle and it was tough. If its a short oral cycle i would just cut the oral and PCT.

 

[Australian made]

ive tried to fight thru during a long cycle and it was tough. If its a short oral cycle i would just cut the oral and post cycle therapy.

yeah thought thats what i'd end up doing, i just wanted to get to 3 full weeks on PP but looks like today will be my last day. Disappointed. I loved the stuff. Strength went through the roof! Epistane next time. Other then gyno i felt zero sides on pp.

 

[pistonpump]

yeah thought thats what i'd end up doing, i just wanted to get to 3 full weeks on PP but looks like today will be my last day. Disappointed. I loved the stuff. Strength went through the roof! Epistane next time. Other then gyno i felt zero sides on pp.

What brand were you using?

Strength gains are awesome on it i must agree. What was your dosing like?

Also, what cycles did you do before and how long in between?

 

[Australian made]

What brand were you using?

Strength gains are awesome on it i must agree. What was your dosing like?

Also, what cycles did you do before and how long in between?

The original Phera from AX. It was my first cycle. I was tossing up between Epi and PP and i thought f*k it, i want to bulk so im going with the PP. Maybe Epi would have been wiser but who knows. Hopefully the Epi will kill any gyno when i do it early January.

i had intended on doing 10,20,20,30 (im 6'2, 240lbs)............ended up doing 10 for the first 3 days then going to 20 and been there since (18 days). Have not gone up to 30 because i thought it would make the gyno worse. i already had puffy nips so its not like it stands out but i can feel a little ball in one the left nip. Noticed it about 3 days ago. Have taken 20mg Nolva since to try and kill it off. I think it was wishful thinking attempting to keep going on the cycle and probably a dumb thing to do but you know how addictive it can be!! 10 days in and i was up around 8lbs and my bench incress was nothnig short of phenominal. Looks like PCT will start tonight. Have all PCT supps ready. Will be based around Torm......is it worth taking any Nolva as well or is it just too much stress on the liver/over kill?

 

[pistonpump]

too bad. Day 18-25 i saw the best gains from it. At least now you know that you are prone to gyno.

 

[Australian made]

too bad. Day 18-25 i saw the best gains from it.

thanks for kicking salt into my open wounds:whip:

 

[Movin_weight]

if you were dead set on finishing the cycle you could probly bridge into a 3 week epistane cycle... just keep the dose around 20mg... might even help with the gyno?

 

[Australian made]

if you were dead set on finishing the cycle you could probly bridge into a 3 week epistane cycle... just keep the dose around 20mg... might even help with the gyno?

i was just thinking this right now.....actually i have Havoc but same thing right (debateable). I might do this actually. Its very tempting.

 

[hockeyroom28]

Still not sure what I'm gonna do, on Day 11 of 21 right now. I can't tell if its a ball/knots or just harder underneath

 

[hockeyroom28]

OK I am going to start Letro. I have heard about loss of sex drive. When does it come back? Is there a chance it is gone for good?

 

[Movin_weight]

Still not sure what I'm gonna do, on Day 11 of 21 right now. I can't tell if its a ball/knots or just harder underneath

try not to poke and sqeeze around too much, you can cause agitation and swelling if you do this which will make you think the problem is worse than it is, and thus more freaking out

 

[Australian made]

try not to poke and sqeeze around too much, you can cause agitation and swelling if you do this which will make you think the problem is worse than it is, and thus more freaking out

i second that! im freaking myself out a lot these past 2 days........i should probably just leave the damn things alone. cant say ive ever paid this much attention to my nipples.

 

[hockeyroom28]

lol same here, im always looking in the mirror and from diff angles. i think im gonna do letro just to be safe tho

 

[neoborn]

OK I am going to start Letro. I have heard about loss of sex drive. When does it come back? Is there a chance it is gone for good?

1. Why do you think people make a big deal about not touching PH/ AAS/ PS before a certain age and even when you do to be fully prepared and research, research, and research some more? Yes there is always a risk it is gone for good, likely, no.

2. It will come back as you stop doing whatever is suppressing it and perhaps do a chem or two of something to start up your HPTA and get your balls working.

You should not be doing a PH if you don't know what to do when....roughly speaking. I mean there are always odd questions and weird situations but this my friend is not one of them.

Your SERM will get you started back up.

Much Love,

Neoborn

 

[Travis]

If your using the letro make sure you pyramid the doses. Otherwise you will just have the rebound issue again.

 

[Movin_weight]

i wouldn't use the letro personally, just use nolva and u should be fine

 

[SRwizard]

Ok, so everyone talks about a lump under the nipple. Is this lump right under the nipple in the areola area? Or can it be elswhere. Ive honestly never prodded around my nipples before. Under the nipple and areola it is soft. but I can feel a lump just above the areola up in the pec. It is above and just off to the side of the nipple area, sort of in the direction of the armpit. There is one on either side. Ive had no pain or itchiness, but am concerned as I have no idea if it is a new thing or not.