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  1.  10-08-2007  02:27 PM
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    Aromatizing / non aromatizing


    So we've got a sticky for general profiles, but they don't list aromatizing vs non aromatizing. So I thought i'd start a thread.

    assume a " and clones" at the end of each name

    ** means potential prolactin issues, powerFull from USP labs is a reasonable choice to help lower this

    Non-aromatizing
    epistane
    superdrol **
    Andrenosteron (11-oxo,3-ad,androxtreme)
    Propadrol
    Max LMG
    Mega TRN
    halodrol 50
    Prostanazol
    Pheraplex ?
    M1T **


    Aromatizing
    M1,4,ADD
    1,4AD
    M1-D


    So post here with others, I'll edit this initial post so that its inclusive.

    I've seen a few people talking about taking an AI while on cycle, and in many cases its unnecessary, but it would be nice if it was easy to find out in one spot.
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    M1,4,ADD aromatizes

    halodrol in the non-aromatizing section

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    What about M1T and M1-D? I dont know the classification but im ust throwing them out there. BOLD(forgot the compound). Prostanozolo(sp)

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    tren x, or finigenX-Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione

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    m1t description says non aromatizing and Phera also

    max lmg i would think aromatizes

    alot of products claim and show proof that it doesnt aromatize directly but estrogen sides can manifest via other avenues/pathways.

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    Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    m1t description says non aromatizing and Phera also

    max lmg i would think aromatizes

    alot of products claim and show proof that it doesnt aromatize directly but estrogen sides can manifest via other avenues/pathways.
    Hmm I have a bottle of AX's phera and it doesn't have a big "non aromatizing" on it like most else of what I have but ok, thats why I had the ?
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    Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    m1t description says non aromatizing and Phera also

    max lmg i would think aromatizes

    alot of products claim and show proof that it doesnt aromatize directly but estrogen sides can manifest via other avenues/pathways.
    m1t shouldn't aromatize, but may have progesterone activity. Samething with max lmg.

    Phera should aromatize to some degree. Since it is a testosterone based androgen.

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    SuperDrol does, despite its claim

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    Originally Posted by ECTOmorph View Post
    SuperDrol does, despite its claim
    do you have blood tests displaying elevated estrogen?

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    Originally Posted by aspire210 View Post
    do you have blood tests displaying elevated estrogen?
    I had major fatigue, and major gyno....that Nolva and an AI took care of

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    hmm they gyno was on cycle?
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    The designers that boost prolactin levels should also be noted, M1t caused gyno problems for alot of guys because of this because ppl didn't know any better, i believe Superdrol as well.

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    Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    hmm they gyno was on cycle?
    Yup, started to notice within the first 5 days and was only using 20mg

    I dropped to 10mg around day 9, but my body was aching horribly, I was extremely lethargic all day, and my nipps were erect, and puffy!

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    Originally Posted by ECTOmorph View Post
    Yup, started to notice within the first 5 days and was only using 20mg

    I dropped to 10mg around day 9, but my body was aching horribly, I was extremely lethargic all day, and my nipps were erect, and puffy!
    This sounds more progesterone based. Your generally get lethargic and achey when E2 levels are too low, not too high. Take a high dose of AI for a few weeks and you will know what I mean.

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    Originally Posted by aspire210 View Post
    This sounds more progesterone based. Your generally get lethargic and achey when E2 levels are too low, not too high. Take a high dose of AI for a few weeks and you will know what I mean.
    Well I had wondered that, but the fact that Arimidex and Nolva fixed all this, including the gyno, that tells me it was e2

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    superdrol is 17methylated drostanolone(2methyl DHT) the structure does not allow it to aromatize into estrogen.

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    Originally Posted by ECTOmorph View Post
    Well I had wondered that, but the fact that Arimidex and Nolva fixed all this, including the gyno, that tells me it was e2
    well was it AX superdrol? A lot of people getting gyno with non-AX, as some of the copies were apperently tainted.

    Outside of that it could have some interaction with the estrogen receptors, but I highly doubt it actually CONVERTS to some sort of estrogen due to its structure.

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    Originally Posted by aspire210 View Post
    well was it AX superdrol? A lot of people getting gyno with non-AX, as some of the copies were apperently tainted.

    Outside of that it could have some interaction with the estrogen receptors, but I highly doubt it actually CONVERTS to some sort of estrogen due to its structure.
    SNS Methyl-Drol XT

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    Originally Posted by aspire210 View Post
    This sounds more progesterone based.
    Progesterone cant induce gyno unless E2 levels are elevated anyways

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