Aromatizing / non aromatizing

[EasyEJL]

So we've got a sticky for general profiles, but they don't list aromatizing vs non aromatizing. So I thought i'd start a thread.

assume a " and clones" at the end of each name

** means potential prolactin issues, powerFull from USP labs is a reasonable choice to help lower this

Non-aromatizing
epistane
superdrol **
Andrenosteron (11-oxo,3-ad,androxtreme)
Propadrol
Max LMG
Mega TRN
halodrol 50
Prostanazol
Pheraplex ?
M1T **


Aromatizing
M1,4,ADD
1,4AD
M1-D


So post here with others, I'll edit this initial post so that its inclusive.

I've seen a few people talking about taking an AI while on cycle, and in many cases its unnecessary, but it would be nice if it was easy to find out in one spot.

 

[adil]

M1,4,ADD aromatizes

halodrol in the non-aromatizing section

 

[ATH3386]

What about M1T and M1-D? I dont know the classification but im ust throwing them out there. BOLD(forgot the compound). Prostanozolo(sp)

 

[brewspew]

tren x, or finigenX-Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione

 

[pistonpump]

m1t description says non aromatizing and Phera also

max lmg i would think aromatizes

alot of products claim and show proof that it doesnt aromatize directly but estrogen sides can manifest via other avenues/pathways.

 

[EasyEJL]

m1t description says non aromatizing and Phera also

max lmg i would think aromatizes

alot of products claim and show proof that it doesnt aromatize directly but estrogen sides can manifest via other avenues/pathways.

Hmm I have a bottle of AX's phera and it doesn't have a big "non aromatizing" on it like most else of what I have but ok, thats why I had the ?

 

[aspire210]

m1t description says non aromatizing and Phera also

max lmg i would think aromatizes

alot of products claim and show proof that it doesnt aromatize directly but estrogen sides can manifest via other avenues/pathways.

m1t shouldn't aromatize, but may have progesterone activity. Samething with max lmg.

Phera should aromatize to some degree. Since it is a testosterone based androgen.

 

[ECTOmorph]

SuperDrol does, despite its claim

 

[aspire210]

SuperDrol does, despite its claim

do you have blood tests displaying elevated estrogen?

 

[ECTOmorph]

do you have blood tests displaying elevated estrogen?

I had major fatigue, and major gyno....that Nolva and an AI took care of

 

[EasyEJL]

hmm they gyno was on cycle?

 

[CHAPS]

The designers that boost prolactin levels should also be noted, M1t caused gyno problems for alot of guys because of this because ppl didn't know any better, i believe Superdrol as well.

 

[ECTOmorph]

hmm they gyno was on cycle?

Yup, started to notice within the first 5 days and was only using 20mg

I dropped to 10mg around day 9, but my body was aching horribly, I was extremely lethargic all day, and my nipps were erect, and puffy!

 

[aspire210]

Yup, started to notice within the first 5 days and was only using 20mg

I dropped to 10mg around day 9, but my body was aching horribly, I was extremely lethargic all day, and my nipps were erect, and puffy!

This sounds more progesterone based. Your generally get lethargic and achey when E2 levels are too low, not too high. Take a high dose of AI for a few weeks and you will know what I mean.

 

[ECTOmorph]

This sounds more progesterone based. Your generally get lethargic and achey when E2 levels are too low, not too high. Take a high dose of AI for a few weeks and you will know what I mean.

Well I had wondered that, but the fact that Arimidex and Nolva fixed all this, including the gyno, that tells me it was e2

 

[BIGAINS]

superdrol is 17methylated drostanolone(2methyl DHT) the structure does not allow it to aromatize into estrogen.

 

[aspire210]

Well I had wondered that, but the fact that Arimidex and Nolva fixed all this, including the gyno, that tells me it was e2

well was it AX superdrol? A lot of people getting gyno with non-AX, as some of the copies were apperently tainted.

Outside of that it could have some interaction with the estrogen receptors, but I highly doubt it actually CONVERTS to some sort of estrogen due to its structure.

 

[ECTOmorph]

well was it AX superdrol? A lot of people getting gyno with non-AX, as some of the copies were apperently tainted.

Outside of that it could have some interaction with the estrogen receptors, but I highly doubt it actually CONVERTS to some sort of estrogen due to its structure.

SNS Methyl-Drol XT

 

[ECTOmorph]

This sounds more progesterone based.

Progesterone cant induce gyno unless E2 levels are elevated anyways