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Confused about American Cellular Labs Mass Xtreme = Phera clone or Ergomax clone??

  1.  10-05-2007  02:29 PM
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    Question Confused about American Cellular Labs Mass Xtreme = Phera clone or Ergomax clone??


    Hello all,

    Anybody tried American Cellular Labs Mass Xtreme?

    I'm just curious about it. Is that phera clone or ergomax clone?

    The label is 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol which is the same as phera-plex.

    I get confused because some said that it is phera clone and some said that it is like ergomax.

    Any help and idea would be appreciated

    Thanks



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    Looks like Phera since its doesn't have the 3 ene in it. I maybe wrong though.

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    ^^^and there you have it...they're both pretty similar anyway though...for most Ergomax is a little more wet, but some still seem to like it more out of the two.
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    Yeah. That's what I'm thinking about.
    It depends on the ratio of the 2-ene / 3-ene.
    We don't actually know the ratio of the 2-ene / 3-ene in that product.
    It's probably closer to ergomax but it's not ergomax, isn't it?

    That's why I need the feedback or review from anybody who have tried Mass Xtreme.

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    I haven't used that product that u are talking about but I have used ALRI and AX ErgoMax-LMG and really enjoyed it. I have no comparsion to Phera-Plex. I will be running it soon though.

    ACL makes good products from the feedback that I have seen but the prices are retarded high for me.

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    Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    I haven't used that product that u are talking about but I have used ALRI and AX ErgoMax-LMG and really enjoyed it. I have no comparsion to Phera-Plex. I will be running it soon though.

    ACL makes good products from the feedback that I have seen but the prices are retarded high for me.
    Yeah, you're right.

    I am on AX Ergomax LMG now. I am taking 20mg for 4 weeks.
    I really enjoy it but I think it is very wet.
    I have gained 6lbs in 1.5weeks but I feel bloated.
    My strength has been up through the roof.
    It is my first cycle.

    That's why I am very curious about ACL Mass Xtreme.
    Is it like ergomax or phera? or maybe a mix of two just like everything out there?

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    Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Yeah, you're right.

    I am on AX Ergomax LMG now. I am taking 20mg for 4 weeks.
    I really enjoy it but I think it is very wet.
    I have gained 6lbs in 1.5weeks but I feel bloated.
    My strength has been up through the roof.
    It is my first cycle.

    That's why I am very curious about ACL Mass Xtreme.
    Is it like ergomax or phera? or maybe a mix of two just like everything out there?
    It looks to be straight Phera, but I believe most Phera clones are a mixture of both, I am not 100% sure though.

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    Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    It looks to be straight Phera, but I believe most Phera clones are a mixture of both, I am not 100% sure though.
    Yes, it looks to be straight Phera but it's probably a mix of the two just like everything else out there.
    But it's not entirely ergomax, right?
    If I'm not mistaken, Ergomax is 70% 2-ene / 30% 3-ene while phera is pure 2-ene.
    Maybe Mass Xtreme is about 80% 2-ene/20% 3-ene or 90%/10% or maybe 85%/15%, isn't it?

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    Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Yes, it looks to be straight Phera but it's probably a mix of the two just like everything else out there.
    But it's not entirely ergomax, right?
    If I'm not mistaken, Ergomax is 70% 2-ene / 30% 3-ene while phera is pure 2-ene.
    Maybe Mass Xtreme is about 80% 2-ene/20% 3-ene or 90%/10% or maybe 85%/15%, isn't it?
    That I don't know. Sorry.

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    Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    That I don't know. Sorry.
    No worries man.
    I already thank to you.
    It's very nice of you.

    Maybe anybody who have tried ACL Mass Xtreme can give a feedback or review.

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