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:jaw: I am so excited, I just placed a large order and here it is

1 x MDrol
1 x Furazadrol
1 x Havoc
1 x Fish oil
1 x Real Gains

I plan on running the MDrol and Fura for 4 weeks then Havoc as a bridge to PCT. I am psyched as hell
 
I wouldnt use havoc/epi as a bridge. Your trying to recover correct????? Then dont use a suppressive compound, even if some claim it has SERM like effects. There is no research to support this. Just use a SERM if you want serm like effects.
 
Not even at 20mg's?

I have used it during the last week, (non bridge) on stuff that may cause flare ups, and it seems like it deters them away.
 
bombBoogie said:
Not even at 20mg's?

I have used it during the last week, (non bridge) on stuff that may cause flare ups, and it seems like it deters them away.
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Lets think about this you've just run 4 weeks of a SD clone and you want to do a week of another milder hormonal product just to prevent gyno (assume yoru talking about gyno here) flare ups? Are you wanting to overlap the last week of SD with havoc? I would think that will only increase chances of sides at that point.
 
Travis said:
Lets think about this you've just run 4 weeks of a superdrol clone and you want to do a week of another milder hormonal product just to prevent gyno (assume yoru talking about gyno here) flare ups? Are you wanting to overlap the last week of superdrol with havoc? I would think that will only increase chances of sides at that point.
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Ohh, I don't mean an additional week, more like introduce epi/havoc in the last week of your cycle.
So still 4 week, but add in a low dose, or even pulse for the last few days.
sdrol: 10/20/20/
epi :--/--/--/ 20
 
bombBoogie said:
Ohh, I don't mean an additional week, more like introduce epi/havoc in the last week of your cycle.
So still 4 week, but add in a low dose, or even pulse for the last few days.
superdrol: 10/20/20/
epi: /20
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Its not worth it imo. SD will kill your lipid values then adding in havoc even at low doses will only add to that. Plus I have rarely heard of anyone having gyno issues with SD DURING their cycle. Usuallly its a delayed issue.
 
Well I have yet do a sd cycle, but I understand your concerns for the addition of something + sd.
Superdrol by itself is a killer, and adding anything may cause situations to flop over.
But in my own opinion, by having epi/havoc in the end of a cycle can or may prevent some gyno issues from some p.s./p.h. like sd.

Nor I do I condone anyone to try this method unless you are up for some experimenting. :D
 
Hank Vangut said:
i don't think havoc has a serm like effect.
i think you meant AI effect possibly?
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this is what I meant in essence. I have done 3 cycles of epi and had nice response to it so I have decided to do a little experimenting
 
You have valid points - I commend you on your theory... But, gyno cannot be treated before the onset occurs. With a superdrol cycle, mostly all gyno related issues are delayed up to 2 to 3 months. Do I have the scientific backing to prove this - NO. I am simply adding what logs I've read over the last 3 - 4 years.

Man, that would be great if you could run EPI at the end of each cycle and not get or have an delayed occurance.

IMO, I would not do it. But I'm not going to look down on someone for trying it out.

bombBoogie said:
Well I have yet do a superdrol cycle, but I understand your concerns for the addition of something + superdrol.
Superdrol by itself is a killer, and adding anything may cause situations to flop over.
But in my own opinion, by having epi/havoc in the end of a cycle can or may prevent some gyno issues from some p.s./p.h. like superdrol.

Nor I do I condone anyone to try this method unless you are up for some experimenting. :D
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My feeling is it is worth a shot. For me at a moments notice I can drop mg's and hit PCT early if I am starting to feel or see things I am not happy with. Overall though, I think the MDrol with Fura is fairly solid then hit the Havoc short term, then PCT
 
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