Designer steroids alternatives?
- 09-13-2007, 11:37 AM
Designer steroids alternatives?
As of now I am 20y/o and I was planning on jumping straight into a Pheraplex cycle even though I am not 21 (how much diff. could 6 months make?), but I have decided to try something less potent to work my way into DS's. I want something that will yield like 1lb per week and doesn't need a pct (or doesn't really need a pct). Would taking this route lessen the effects of the Phera later because of receptors being used on inferior stuff? Anyone know of a product that would work for what I am trying to do? Please help me out.
- 09-13-2007, 11:57 AM
Good on you for holding off. Plenty of products out there that could help you besides a PH. Might want to check the supplement section though. NHA stack, AX Mass stack, ALRI's JW/BAM/Pro Anabol (it may recommend you be 21 for these as well come to think of it) but i'd suggest you give something like that a try before you jump into PP. And take a closer look at your diet and see if you could make improvements, no doubt you probably could. Good luck.
09-13-2007, 01:26 PM
09-13-2007, 01:37 PM
09-13-2007, 01:38 PM
epi requires a PCT though. I do have some, but holding off to try something less potent first. I think JW might even need pct from what I hear. How about bold?
09-13-2007, 02:11 PM
09-13-2007, 03:37 PM
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09-13-2007, 04:18 PM
I would highly suggest running the new Drive, RPM and double your protein intake and start from there.
09-13-2007, 04:21 PM
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09-13-2007, 05:24 PM
SDNG needs OTC czuse it is truley a prohormone so it actually converts inside of your body intoo the active hormone
09-13-2007, 05:43 PM
I have been training for 2 years. I am 6"0 and 180lbs. First year I didn't know wtf I was doing and cut from a fatty 180lbs to a anorexic/weak 150lbs lol. I realized I was a fool, got educated and got back up to 180lbs over the next year. Gains have slowed quite a bit though. I eat about 3000 cals and my protein is around 250g...so Ronnie I don't think I'd want to double that. I think it may be too much already. Diet is on point and squats are brutal. I have a naturally small frame and put on fat easily too (not a good combo). I want mass, but lean gains are hard to come by, even with a strict diet. Hope this helps you help me lol.
09-14-2007, 08:14 PM
09-14-2007, 08:43 PM
09-14-2007, 11:24 PM
anything non-hormonal that can produce good gains...besides food lol? Are you pretty much saying that I might as well run my pheraplex instead of wasting time with something like methyl 1-d, which needs a pct anyway?
09-14-2007, 11:25 PM
09-15-2007, 08:53 AM
09-15-2007, 09:13 AM
Why not try some arninine ethyl ester, citrulline malate, creatine, etc.
The first two are vasodialators, they give you the "pumped" look, and are cycled without post therapy. By cycled I mean manufacturers usually recommend not taking them for more than 8 consecutive weeks. Here you go: Ultimate MassPump Stack (combo pack) By NutraPlanet
You're still young and probably have a lot of natural test in you to keep you going for a few more years. Adjust your diet and training program and you're good as gold.
09-15-2007, 11:13 AM
save yourself the trouble and do the mass stack from AX. it will do good. and aPCT isnt 21+.
09-15-2007, 12:09 PM
What is in the ax mass stack? Is there an element of the stack that I may not need, instead of buying the whole thing (price)? Novedex is 21+...didn't know that. Also, by hydrol I ment Hyperdrol. I have been on creatine for a long time and the NO stuff I use is occasionally pre workout.
09-15-2007, 01:01 PM
09-15-2007, 01:28 PM
What gains could I expect from this stack over the cycle? How long is the cycle? My natural gains are .25-.5lbs per week lean (not going overboard to put on fat). Would this be better than say.....a 10-12 week cycle of BOLD?
09-15-2007, 02:01 PM
The gains with the AX would vary, but it won't beat hormonal type of products, you might want to post that question in the AX sub-forum.
AX stack is usually considered non-hormonal stack, but it does boost your natural test, so I guess it is semi-hormonal. lol!
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