Designer steroids alternatives?
- 09-13-2007, 09:37 AM
Designer steroids alternatives?
As of now I am 20y/o and I was planning on jumping straight into a Pheraplex cycle even though I am not 21 (how much diff. could 6 months make?), but I have decided to try something less potent to work my way into DS's. I want something that will yield like 1lb per week and doesn't need a pct (or doesn't really need a pct). Would taking this route lessen the effects of the Phera later because of receptors being used on inferior stuff? Anyone know of a product that would work for what I am trying to do? Please help me out.
- 09-13-2007, 09:57 AM
Good on you for holding off. Plenty of products out there that could help you besides a PH. Might want to check the supplement section though. NHA stack, AX Mass stack, ALRI's JW/BAM/Pro Anabol (it may recommend you be 21 for these as well come to think of it) but i'd suggest you give something like that a try before you jump into PP. And take a closer look at your diet and see if you could make improvements, no doubt you probably could. Good luck.
- 09-13-2007, 11:26 AM
Epistane or the new SuperDrol-NG would be for a begginer
epi requires a PCT though. I do have some, but holding off to try something less potent first. I think JW might even need pct from what I hear. How about bold?
x factor is a good choice that isnt a designer but yields good gains
it will require pct and not otc stuff. cant see why somone would wanna run otc stuff anyway
I would highly suggest running the new Drive, RPM and double your protein intake and start from there.
SDNG needs OTC czuse it is truley a prohormone so it actually converts inside of your body intoo the active hormone
I have been training for 2 years. I am 6"0 and 180lbs. First year I didn't know wtf I was doing and cut from a fatty 180lbs to a anorexic/weak 150lbs lol. I realized I was a fool, got educated and got back up to 180lbs over the next year. Gains have slowed quite a bit though. I eat about 3000 cals and my protein is around 250g...so Ronnie I don't think I'd want to double that. I think it may be too much already. Diet is on point and squats are brutal. I have a naturally small frame and put on fat easily too (not a good combo). I want mass, but lean gains are hard to come by, even with a strict diet. Hope this helps you help me lol.
x-mass? Methyl 1-d? Would these do anything and do they not require a PCT?
anything non-hormonal that can produce good gains...besides food lol? Are you pretty much saying that I might as well run my pheraplex instead of wasting time with something like methyl 1-d, which needs a pct anyway?
how about hydrol or halo liquigels? Do they need pct?
Why not try some arninine ethyl ester, citrulline malate, creatine, etc.
The first two are vasodialators, they give you the "pumped" look, and are cycled without post therapy. By cycled I mean manufacturers usually recommend not taking them for more than 8 consecutive weeks. Here you go: Ultimate MassPump Stack (combo pack) By NutraPlanet
You're still young and probably have a lot of natural test in you to keep you going for a few more years. Adjust your diet and training program and you're good as gold.
save yourself the trouble and do the mass stack from AX. it will do good. and aPCT isnt 21+.
What is in the ax mass stack? Is there an element of the stack that I may not need, instead of buying the whole thing (price)? Novedex is 21+...didn't know that. Also, by hydrol I ment Hyperdrol. I have been on creatine for a long time and the NO stuff I use is occasionally pre workout.
What gains could I expect from this stack over the cycle? How long is the cycle? My natural gains are .25-.5lbs per week lean (not going overboard to put on fat). Would this be better than say.....a 10-12 week cycle of BOLD?
The gains with the AX would vary, but it won't beat hormonal type of products, you might want to post that question in the AX sub-forum.
AX stack is usually considered non-hormonal stack, but it does boost your natural test, so I guess it is semi-hormonal. lol!
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