On Cycle Cholesterol\blood Pressure Management

[pudzian2]

ON CYCLE CHOLESTEROL\BLOOD PRESSURE MANAGEMENT

Using this cycle as a reference: (see my thread for full details: "Possible Safe-ish cycle ideas."

1-12 test e @ 750mg
1-12 eq @ 600mg
1-5/6 epi @ 40mg
13-15 epi @ 40mg
16 on post cycle therapy.


For people who have run similar cycles (at least with a 750mg-ish base of test) for a long span of time (16 weeks or so)

1.) how was your cholesterol affected?
2.) what did you do to monitor\control the issue

3.)how was your blood pressure affected
4.)what did you do to monitor\control the issue

 

[Travis]

In my bloodwork thread below b1550 gave me some pretty good info on controlling cholesterol on/off cycle. Check out the links he posted:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/69229-some-bloodwork.html

 

[CROWLER]

Here you go a product by the name of Cycle Support.

and it even has blood tests to show lowered blood pressure and lowered cholesterol after using Cycle Support

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabolic-innovations/53347-cycle-support-life.html


Cycle Support (60 Servings) By Anabolic Innovations

Dosing schedule

Start 1 week before you start your cycle at 2 servings per day. Continue through your cycle and post cycle therapy.


For your post cycle you may want to take a look at POST Cycle Support at 2 servings per day bottle lasts 1 month

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/74333-post-cycle-support.html

CROWLER

 

[pudzian2]

In my bloodwork thread below b1550 gave me some pretty good info on controlling cholesterol on/off cycle. Check out the links he posted:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/69229-some-bloodwork.html

The amounts of Red Yeast Rice in CYCLE SUPPORT may attribute to the LOW cholesterol numbers. I had the same problem as you after my epi\PP\finigenx cycle. My Total cholesterol was okay, it was like 125. My LDL was like 70-80 if i can remember but my HDL was like 35 or so. It was a little below the low range on my Bloodwork sheet. My doctor seemed to think it was just due to the amount of exercise I eat and the cleanliness of my diet... But i seem to think it was caused either by the epistane or the RYR in the cycle support. If i were to take Cycle support for a long period of time i would probably cut the dosage in half and use it with an anti-oxidant product like "Radox" and lots of omega-3's.

From what I can conclude from your thread is that its recommended to eat a lot of mono unsaturated\healthy fats while on cycle and use supplements\ancillaries\healthy eating to control LDL and the total cholest....Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Travis]

Here you go a product by the name of Cycle Support.

and it even has blood tests to show lowered blood pressure and lowered cholesterol after using Cycle Support

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabolic-innovations/53347-cycle-support-life.html


Cycle Support (60 Servings) By Anabolic Innovations

Dosing schedule

Start 1 week before you start your cycle at 2 servings per day. Continue through your cycle and post cycle therapy.


For your post cycle you may want to take a look at POST Cycle Support at 2 servings per day bottle lasts 1 month

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/74333-post-cycle-support.html

CROWLER

Without a doubt cycle support is awesome! :goodpost:

 

[pudzian2]

Without a doubt cycle support is awesome! :goodpost:

can you explain your low dose nolva+ derm sustain PCT... Did you frontload\taper the Nolva and use full dose sustain ED?

 

[jomi822]

ON CYCLE CHOLESTEROL\BLOOD PRESSURE MANAGEMENT

Using this cycle as a reference: (see my thread for full details: "Possible Safe-ish cycle ideas."

1-12 test e @ 750mg
1-12 eq @ 600mg
1-5/6 epi @ 40mg
13-15 epi @ 40mg
16 on post cycle therapy.


For people who have run similar cycles (at least with a 750mg-ish base of test) for a long span of time (16 weeks or so)

1.) how was your cholesterol affected?
2.) what did you do to monitor\control the issue

3.)how was your blood pressure affected
4.)what did you do to monitor\control the issue

you need to cut that EQ out a week earlier or extend the testosterone week later in order for the undecylenate and enanthate ester to clear the body at the same time.

the way you have it set up right now, you would still have a week of EQ clearance time left before you could start pct...after the test E cleared.

 

[Travis]

can you explain your low dose nolva+ derm sustain post cycle therapy... Did you frontloadtaper the Nolva and use full dose sustain ED?

I actually havent started this pct yet. I will in about 3 days or so (it will be logged). But the plan is to run 10mg Nolva for the first week with full dose Sustain, then maybe 5mg Nolva while continuing to use Sustain until the bottle is gone.

There are other logs from guys doing similar places (not here at AM from what i know) but they have all recovered quite well. In fact I think there is at least one log out there in which no SERM was used (only sustain) with good results. This discussion led me to the protocol though:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/primordial-performance/73675-dermacrine-sustain-vs.html

 

[pudzian2]

you need to cut that EQ out a week earlier or extend the testosterone week later in order for the undecylenate and enanthate ester to clear the body at the same time.

the way you have it set up right now, you would still have a week of EQ clearance time left before you could start post cycle therapy...after the test E cleared.

Ah i see.. well It just so happens that the EQ ester is a week longer than the Enanthate ester so cutting them both out after week 12 would leave me clear by the end of week 14? or did I understand you totally wrong.....

could you just adjust the weeks on the little outline I posted so that I follow you 100%..thanks bro

 

[pudzian2]

I actually havent started this post cycle therapy yet. I will in about 3 days or so (it will be logged). But the plan is to run 10mg Nolva for the first week with full dose Sustain, then maybe 5mg Nolva while continuing to use Sustain until the bottle is gone.

There are other logs from guys doing similar places (not here at AM from what i know) but they have all recovered quite well. In fact I think there is at least one log out there in which no SERM was used (only sustain) with good results. This discussion led me to the protocol though:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/primordial-performance/73675-dermacrine-sustain-vs.html

This has me thinking. Maybe cut the total SERM dosages by 1\3 and eventually to 1\2 of which I had originally planned and incorporate Sustain.... This wouldnt leave much space for an AI though..


Yes i know the above few posts arent completely cholesterol related...but they are still relevant\interesting

 

[pudzian2]

can you explain your low dose nolva+ derm sustain post cycle therapy... Did you frontloadtaper the Nolva and use full dose sustain ED?


Quote:
Originally Posted by pudzian2

ON CYCLE CHOLESTEROL\BLOOD PRESSURE MANAGEMENT

Using this cycle as a reference: (see my thread for full details: "Possible Safe-ish cycle ideas."

1-12 test e @ 750mg
1-12 eq @ 600mg
1-5/6 epi @ 40mg
13-15 epi @ 40mg
16 on post cycle therapy.


For people who have run similar cycles (at least with a 750mg-ish base of test) for a long span of time (16 weeks or so)

1.) how was your cholesterol affected?
2.) what did you do to monitor\control the issue

3.)how was your blood pressure affected
4.)what did you do to monitor\control the issue
you need to cut that EQ out a week earlier or extend the testosterone week later in order for the undecylenate and enanthate ester to clear the body at the same time.

the way you have it set up right now, you would still have a week of EQ clearance time left before you could start post cycle therapy...after the test E cleared.



Quote:
Originally Posted by pudzian2
can you explain your low dose nolva+ derm sustain post cycle therapy... Did you frontloadtaper the Nolva and use full dose sustain ED?
I actually havent started this post cycle therapy yet. I will in about 3 days or so (it will be logged). But the plan is to run 10mg Nolva for the first week with full dose Sustain, then maybe 5mg Nolva while continuing to use Sustain until the bottle is gone.

There are other logs from guys doing similar places (not here at AM from what i know) but they have all recovered quite well. In fact I think there is at least one log out there in which no SERM was used (only sustain) with good results. This discussion led me to the protocol though:

Dermacrine Sustain vs SERM's



Quote:
Originally Posted by jomi822
you need to cut that EQ out a week earlier or extend the testosterone week later in order for the undecylenate and enanthate ester to clear the body at the same time.

the way you have it set up right now, you would still have a week of EQ clearance time left before you could start post cycle therapy...after the test E cleared.
Ah i see.. well It just so happens that the EQ ester is a week longer than the Enanthate ester so cutting them both out after week 12 would leave me clear by the end of week 14? or did I understand you totally wrong.....

could you just adjust the weeks on the little outline I posted so that I follow you 100%..thanks bro
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Travis
I actually havent started this post cycle therapy yet. I will in about 3 days or so (it will be logged). But the plan is to run 10mg Nolva for the first week with full dose Sustain, then maybe 5mg Nolva while continuing to use Sustain until the bottle is gone.

There are other logs from guys doing similar places (not here at AM from what i know) but they have all recovered quite well. In fact I think there is at least one log out there in which no SERM was used (only sustain) with good results. This discussion led me to the protocol though:

Dermacrine Sustain vs SERM's
This has me thinking. Maybe cut the total SERM dosages by 1\3 and eventually to 1\2 of which I had originally planned and incorporate Sustain.... This wouldnt leave much space for an AI though..


Yes i know the above few posts arent completely cholesterol related...but they are still relevant\interesting


I am going to move the above few posts to the thread in which they are more relevant. Please continue this conversation there so i can keep this thread related to cholseterol\ blood pressure.::

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/68892-possible-safe-ish-3.html