Zero gains from Phera Plex

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I am I the only one who has ran PP and noticed nothing? I dosed at 20 mgs week 1 and 30 week 2 ED. I have started my SD part of my stack early and will run that @ 20 mgs ED for 3 weeks. Did my first SD cycle at 20 mgs ED for 4 weeks and loved it. Fortunately for me i felt great on it and only had a minor increase in BP 133/79.I am really disappointed with PP. Hell I felt stronger on Superpump 250 and Size On.
 
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I am I the only one who has ran PP and noticed nothing? I dosed at 20 mgs week 1 and 30 week 2 ED. I have started my superdrol part of my stack early and will run that @ 20 mgs ED for 3 weeks. Did my first SD cycle at 20 mgs ED for 4 weeks and loved it. Fortunately for me i felt great on it and only had a minor increase in BP 133/79.I am really disappointed with PP. Hell I felt stronger on Superpump 250 and Size On.
gosh darn man. where are the details.

1. comments about diet
2. what pheraplex did you use
3. i gained 10lbs from phera in 2weeks
4. sucks 4 u thx for sharing
5. whats ur workouts like. how old ru. etc etc.
 
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Hell PP was one of my favorites ...great gains for me
 

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im using Cel p-plex right now and ive gained 15 pounds in 3 weeks, but the last time i tried running phera plex, i used phera vol by ESt and didnt notice anything from it and stopped after 2 weeks
 

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im using Cel p-plex right now and ive gained 15 pounds in 3 weeks, but the last time i tried running phera plex, i used phera vol by ESt and didnt notice anything from it and stopped after 2 weeks
 
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Is there an echo in here????

Any way, PP is the PH choice for me - every cycle yields a solid 11-14 lb increase (after PCT)

What brand?
 
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I got nothing from PP personally. Anabolic Extreme and other brands did me squat. Does that mean it is not good? Nope. Means everybody is different.
 
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Please post the name or brand-
 

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It is AX PP with a exp. date of 2010. I am 33 yrs old and used to compete in raw powerlifting competitions. My training is done 3x per week use 5x5 rep/set scheme with all of the main lifts. Assistance work is done in the 8-10 rep range. Total cal intake is 3500-4000 per day and i have been drinking 1.5 gals of water per day. Macro nutrient intake is broken down 50/30/20 carbs,prot, fat. Height 5'9" BW at beginning of PP was 191 at 2 week mark 192. BW taken first thing in the AM after I piss. The only reason I posted this is because of the great things i have read about PP and the total lack of gains I am seeing, the strength gains have been very small. I have done 1 cycle of SD for 4 weeks @ 20 mgs and gained 13 lbs and kept 10. It makes me think i may be a DMT (PP) non responder. I am wondering if others have seen this effect with traditional gear or is this just something OTC anabolics users experience.
 
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im using Cel p-plex right now and ive gained 15 pounds in 3 weeks, but the last time i tried running phera plex, i used phera vol by ESt and didnt notice anything from it and stopped after 2 weeks
i think EST is really bunk on CEL products like M-drol and P-plex i gained about 10lbs....

on EST methyl vol and phera vol it was a waste of money didnt gain anything...
 
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i'm doing a 1-ad (ergo) and PP stack right now, closing it off with a couple weeks on zol to dry up. Anyways, i love it. I've gained 8 lbs already! just finished week 2. The PP I'm using is the SNS methyl-plex, which is only about 80% of the original PP because of their use of the 5b and not 100% 5a.
 
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It is AX PP with a exp. date of 2010 - REALLY?

Most that i've seen are with esp. dates of 2008 - early 2009

Not really sure if AX put a batch out that would be so long... hmmmm... interesting

Might be a bad (or different) batch
 

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Yeah i was surprised at the exp date, 02/2010 to be exact. I am gonna switch things up a bit and lower the PP dosage to 20mgs and throw in some SD at 10mgs. The site I bought it from wont take back my other unopened bottle. I know using 2 methyls is HIGHLY discourage for good reason. But, is it the total dosage that i should be concerned with or is just having 2 methyls in itself.
 
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so you have an un-opened bottle of PP? if so, i've got a good trade for you... PM if interested
 
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that's just wrong - you should be ashamed of yourself-------------- ok ok i kid!

I LIKE!!!! I LIKE IT ALOT!!!!
 
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that's just wrong - you should be ashamed of yourself-------------- ok ok i kid!

I LIKE!!!! I LIKE IT ALOT!!!!
nah dude, u were right the first time, it's so wrong but i know tsb loves that sh*t!!!:toofunny:

cheers
 
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gosh darn man. where are the details.

1. comments about diet
2. what pheraplex did you use
3. i gained 10lbs from phera in 2weeks
4. sucks 4 u thx for sharing
5. whats ur workouts like. how old ru. etc etc.
That was funny as hell lol...I dont like pp as well sd works better for me.
 
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It is AX PP with a exp. date of 2010 - REALLY?

Most that i've seen are with esp. dates of 2008 - early 2009

Not really sure if AX put a batch out that would be so long... hmmmm... interesting

Might be a bad (or different) batch
I was thinking the same thing....i still have at least 6 of the AX phera and they all have exp. dates 2008-2009
 
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Yeah. I think someone is reading it wrong, or does not have AX's PP

I was thinking the same thing....i still have at least 6 of the AX phera and they all have exp. dates 2008-2009
 

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Yeah. I think someone is reading it wrong, or does not have AX's PP
No it is definitely AX PP with exp date 02/2010. The place I got it from still has some. Oh well on to Epistane, next cycle.
 
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I don't know bro - I'm what some would refer to as "PP-aholic" and know my PP (that sounds soooo wrong)

Can you take a picture of it and post it? See, in order for that to expire in 2010, it would have to of been made in 2006-07, and I know they (AX) didn't put out any batches then...

PICTURE please?
 
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I don't know bro - I'm what some would refer to as "PP-aholic" and know my PP (that sounds soooo wrong)

Can you take a picture of it and post it? See, in order for that to expire in 2010, it would have to of been made in 2006-07, and I know they (AX) didn't put out any batches then...

PICTURE please?
I'm with Matt on this one. I still have several bottles the latest of which expire in February 2009. I too have yet to see any legit bottles of AX PP with a later expiry date. Perhaps an AX rep can chime in on this discussion.
 
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you got scammed... the manager of the store used up all the pp and then refilled the bottles with sugar pills, and printed a later exp date on the bottle so he could sell the product longer

or at least thats what i would do if i worked at a supp store :twisted:
 

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did anyone use EST with positive results?
 

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Nope, tryed EST MethylVol (SD clone) last summer: no gains whatsoever never bought anything from them again waiting to get started on a CEL P-plex/M-drol come October.
 

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