Just a simple Q.

[MentalTwitch]

I'm not ready to cycle by any means. I am reasearching it though. Just getting used to the different compiunds and uses, doses, etc..
I was wondering if it would make sense to do Havoc and Phera? I know Havoc is pretty strong and dry. Phera alot of people are saying is wet. Would this be "too much" as if there is such a thing on the darkside? haha thanks guys.
I'm not tryin to get a crazy disscussion goin on PCT and all that just a simple curiosity Q.

[Travis]

I'm not ready to cycle by any means. I am reasearching it though. Just getting used to the different compiunds and uses, doses, etc..
I was wondering if it would make sense to do Havoc and Phera? I know Havoc is pretty strong and dry. Phera alot of people are saying is wet. Would this be "too much" as if there is such a thing on the darkside? haha thanks guys.
I'm not tryin to get a crazy disscussion goin on post cycle therapy and all that just a simple curiosity Q.

I would think they would stack well.....BUT people are going to tell you not to stack two methyls. You may be able to incorporate them into a pulsing cycle. I actually think some guys are already doing this if you check out the huge How To Pulse Orals thread.

Keep researching though...I think eventually you might find that orals aren't the best route.

[MentalTwitch]

alright thanks man. Yea i would not want to do orals but i hate needles. I get real nervous. I doubt i would ever do something so serious anyway. I'll prolly stick to the simple stuff. AX stack, Epistane, etc.

[pistonpump]

there are alot of logs out there people doing just this.

[EctoPower]

there are alot of logs out there people doing just this.

I have a feeling it would be pretty rough for a first timer though. Might be better to pick one and get your feet wet first. Then try the other as your second cycle. Then maybe think about stacking them.

Just a thought. It's better to ease into this stuff.

Reps for researching, Twitch!

[AnonyMoose]

This wouldn't be reccommended - both havoc and pheraplex are methylated.

i agree with ecto - just go with one and get some more experience first. there are other wet options to go. pheraplex is a relatively strong ph. also - my advice - think twice before chooseing havoc over epi.

[MentalTwitch]

Yea, my sis is a nurse and would prolly do it for me when shes around.

I am definetly thinking lightly as i do want to ease into it. Prolly something like Epi solo.

Thanks for the reps, but i still got some searching and thinking to do.

[motive]

let us know what you end up going with. good luck

[lifted]

I doubt i would ever do something so serious anyway. I'll prolly stick to the simple stuff. AX stack, Epistane, etc.

With all due respect, most of these designer orals are MUCH harsher and just as, if not MORE serious as injects. Injects are def safer, for sure. As you said above, you're still researching though, so you'll find this out for yourself soon I'm sure.

[MentalTwitch]

I hope i figure things out soon. I didn't think Epistane was that crazy...?

Back to the boards...

[Beige]

Definite reps for researching and being eager to learn. I love learning about this stuff too. I'm also going to say that most injects are far less harsh on the bod, but if you are going to go with a PH I'd agree that Epi, or H-50 is a great way to begin.