SD vs 1-test
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Strategic
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1-test by a mile. Stacked with 4ad (transdermal) it gives a nice clean cycle with awesome strength gains. It also gives much less side effects and doesn't f up your liver like superdrol.
For me, a 1test/4ad trans cycle is the closest you can get to a "real" cycle with injectables.
For me, a 1test/4ad trans cycle is the closest you can get to a "real" cycle with injectables.
T-Bone
Banned
Hell no!. SD will shut you down faster and harder and literally within a few days. Also there is no telling how long it even stays in your system....
adil
Member
i'm in the UK, and there is a site here that sells 1-ad, 4-ad, 19-nor, 1-test powder. For research purposes of course
LCSULLA
Well-known member
i'm in the UK, and there is a site here that sells 1-ad, 4-ad, 19-nor, 1-test powder. For research purposes of course
And please Do not post the site.
Strategic
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Strategic
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You should use a 2:3 or 1:2 ratio with the 1test:4ad.
Personally I like to use a 1:2 ratio, so I'd run 600mg 4ad trans per day along with your 300mg 1-test.
Also, to anyone who has run 1-test cyp or 4ad cyp injectable, did you mix your own solution or get it premade? I know sledge had some premade stuff, but I dont remember any others. Man, I wish I got a chance to get some of sledges stuff before the ban.
Strategic
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Damn you're lucky you got to try that before the ban. By the time I found this forum, sledge had sold his last batch and wasn't making any more. I did see the formula he posted but I don't trust my chemistry skills enough to make something I would feel comfortable injecting into my body.
Which of his injectables did you try? I know he had that "sledge test" and 1test cyp. How would you compare them to other injectable gear?
adil
Member
Dont worry, i know it's against the forum rules
So, providing my diet, training etc is in check, what sort of weight/strength increases am i looking at (4 weeks 1test/4ad), when compared to SD (3 weeks)
will running a low dose ATD at 25mg ED at night help prevent shutdown (and gyno for that matter), thereby making PCT 'easier' (which will consist of nolva+clomid+hyperdrol x2)
What is the consesus on this stack in terms of libido, sides, gyno and HAIR LOSS?
Many thanks
Jstrong20
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Which of his injectables did you try? I know he had that "sledge test" and 1test cyp. How would you compare them to other injectable gear?[/QUOTE]
I used sledges 1test cyp/ 4ad and it was better than alot of illegal stacks. I'd say the strength gains for me would be similar to a test/tren stack. Actaully the size and strength gains where some of the best of anything now that I think of it. One draw back for some was that injectable 1-test can be painful.
I used sledges 1test cyp/ 4ad and it was better than alot of illegal stacks. I'd say the strength gains for me would be similar to a test/tren stack. Actaully the size and strength gains where some of the best of anything now that I think of it. One draw back for some was that injectable 1-test can be painful.
Rodja
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ATD will not help to prevent shutdown and may actually lower your libido. I never had any troubles with 1T/4AD except for a little lethargy. I hate to make predictions as far as gains go, but I would say that a solid 5 lbs is very possible. Of course that depends on many factors, but that is over 1 lb of LBM a week.
TripDog
Bananas
actually sd isn't as bad on shutdown as most think(dose dependant tho)..no where near the shutdown of say m1t...
BMW
Member
do you live in the states or the uk because i was looking to get 12g of some fake 1test powder its really sugar, but i dont know if the overseas site that sells 12g increaments of fake 1test sugar powder is flagged or not.
T-Bone
Banned
T-Bone
Banned
Really?....I just don't know about that.
adil
Member
i have read various 1test 'logs' and it shuts one down pretty quickly and hard. I just need to know if it will shut me down faster than SD.
I think a trans dose of 200mg ED with 1-test would be sufficient for my first 1-test cycle.
4-AD converts to test in the body, therefore hair loss and gyno are possibilities. Not something i would use
How about something like epi + 1-test?
I think a trans dose of 200mg ED with 1-test would be sufficient for my first 1-test cycle.
4-AD converts to test in the body, therefore hair loss and gyno are possibilities. Not something i would use
How about something like epi + 1-test?
T-Bone
Banned
4AD is great. Hairloss?. I'm not really sure on that one, but gyno yes maybe, but its all dose dependant. As long as you don't go overboard you should be fine.
Rodja
Board Sponsor
Test is the king of all hormones. I don't understand why you are bad mouthing it. There is a possibility of hair loss with most hormones, not just 4AD or 1T. Shut-down is very dose and user dependent, so you will just have to try it out.
Also, the 4AD helps to combat the 1T lethargy and, since 1T is dry, the bloat from the 4AD will not be bad.
snakebyte05
Board Supporter
I bet when people said it shut you down hard and fast they were comparing to other pre-ban substances that you can not use anymore. Compared to today's orals, I think 1-test is much more mild on shutdown. Many of these compounds out there do it in days, with a trans 1-t you aren't going to need to worry about that.
TripDog
Bananas
2a,17a-Dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one
BAD FOR LIVER: YES, less than M1T
BLOOD PRESSURE: VARIES, MIGHT INCREASE.
CHOLESTEROL PROBLEMS: VARIES, CAN BE SERIOUS. Less than M1T.
SEX DRIVE: VARIES, MIGHT INCREASE, TENDS TO DECREASE
MOOD: HANGOVER (some), WELL-BEING (others)
WATER LOSS - dehydration is a real issue.
TYPICAL GAIN IN 1 MONTH: 7-10 lbs.
GAINS START: 10 days.
GAINS STOP: 3 weeks.
MINIMAL ESTROGEN CONVERSION
TESTES SHUTDOWN: slow progression, 10-20 days?
Also known as: Masterdrol, Methyl-drol.
TripDog
Bananas
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