First cycle ever! Not afraid of needles need advice.
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07-12-2007 11:10 PM
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First cycle ever! Not afraid of needles need advice.
I know I posted it in the cycling info section, but this place seems to get more traffic.
Stats: 21, lifting for 7 yrs. 5'11 260. going to cut to 10-12% bf before starting my cycle, which will most likely leave me just under 250. I just want to figure out my cycle in advance. I'm planning on starting it in early September. Looking for vascular look main focus is crazy strength gains, lean mass is a definite plus. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I'm thinking of running this:
Wks 1-10 Testosterone Ethanate 250 mg/wk
Wks 1-10 Equipoise 400mg/wk
post cycle therapy
Nolvadex wks 11,12 40-50mg wk
wks 13,14 20-30mgs/wk
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin
- wks 9-12, 2000 IU's every 5-6 days
Arimidex wks 11-14 .5mg/day
I originally was thinking about TEST prop. 100mg/a day
and adding either anavar-5 weeks to jump start it or
adding Trenbolone for 7 wks. But I talked to some more experienced guys and they recommended
keeping it light for my first cycle
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07-12-2007 11:15 PM
Banned
1. 250mgs of testosterone enanthate is useless
2. just run 500mgs of testosterone...nix the EQ you dont need it for a first cycle. just more sides to deal with
3. PCT is 4 weeks. 40/30/20/10. not 50/50
4. HCG is used on cycle, not post cycle. that **** is old schoo. use 250IU twice a week and youll jump right back when you start PCT. HCG causes further supression if used post cycle.
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07-12-2007 11:28 PM
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250 mg/week of Test isn't useless for most. Many people have used 250 mg/week of Test with good results on their first cycle.
i'd extend the duration of EQ or drop it, myself i'd probably drop it and use a lil more test.
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07-12-2007 11:32 PM
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I like the idea of 500 mg of test a week. I was originally thinking 700, but first cycle, 500'd I'm sure would do a lot for me. Thanks for the info about HCG.
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07-12-2007 11:36 PM
PES Rep
500mg/wk of Test E for 12 weeks with 4 weeks PCT.
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07-12-2007 11:59 PM
She thinks my traps'rrrr sexy!
2000iu is waaayyyyyy too much HCG to use per shot. Like jomi said, 250 or 300 twice a week throughout would be much better. I do like the idea of keeping w/ the HCG through week 12, or maybe take your last shot 12 days after the last test/EQ shot and start the nolva 3 days later. Point being to keep with the HCG and hold off on starting the nolva until the long esters clear.
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07-13-2007 10:43 AM
Registered User
Originally Posted by
jomi822
1. 250mgs of testosterone enanthate is useless
2. just run 500mgs of testosterone...nix the EQ you dont need it for a first cycle. just more sides to deal with
3. post cycle therapy is 4 weeks. 40/30/20/10. not 50/50
4. HCG is used on cycle, not post cycle. that **** is old schoo. use 250IU twice a week and youll jump right back when you start PCT. HCG causes further supression if used post cycle.
HCG can be used post cycle for a short period at lower doses.
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07-13-2007 12:43 PM
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ditto to rodja.. test-e 500mg per week pinned monday and thursday 250mg each day. 10-12 weeks. Stick with one compound for a 1st cycle so you know how your body reacts to it. with multiple compunds, you dont know what is doing what.
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