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First cycle ever! Not afraid of needles need advice.

  1.  07-12-2007  11:10 PM
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    Question First cycle ever! Not afraid of needles need advice.


    I know I posted it in the cycling info section, but this place seems to get more traffic.

    Stats: 21, lifting for 7 yrs. 5'11 260. going to cut to 10-12% bf before starting my cycle, which will most likely leave me just under 250. I just want to figure out my cycle in advance. I'm planning on starting it in early September. Looking for vascular look main focus is crazy strength gains, lean mass is a definite plus. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    I'm thinking of running this:

    Wks 1-10 Testosterone Ethanate 250 mg/wk
    Wks 1-10 Equipoise 400mg/wk
    post cycle therapy
    Nolvadex wks 11,12 40-50mg wk
    wks 13,14 20-30mgs/wk
    HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin
    - wks 9-12, 2000 IU's every 5-6 days
    Arimidex wks 11-14 .5mg/day

    I originally was thinking about TEST prop. 100mg/a day
    and adding either anavar-5 weeks to jump start it or
    adding Trenbolone for 7 wks. But I talked to some more experienced guys and they recommended
    keeping it light for my first cycle



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    1. 250mgs of testosterone enanthate is useless
    2. just run 500mgs of testosterone...nix the EQ you dont need it for a first cycle. just more sides to deal with
    3. PCT is 4 weeks. 40/30/20/10. not 50/50
    4. HCG is used on cycle, not post cycle. that **** is old schoo. use 250IU twice a week and youll jump right back when you start PCT. HCG causes further supression if used post cycle.

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    250 mg/week of Test isn't useless for most. Many people have used 250 mg/week of Test with good results on their first cycle.

    i'd extend the duration of EQ or drop it, myself i'd probably drop it and use a lil more test.

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    I like the idea of 500 mg of test a week. I was originally thinking 700, but first cycle, 500'd I'm sure would do a lot for me. Thanks for the info about HCG.

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    500mg/wk of Test E for 12 weeks with 4 weeks PCT.
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    2000iu is waaayyyyyy too much HCG to use per shot. Like jomi said, 250 or 300 twice a week throughout would be much better. I do like the idea of keeping w/ the HCG through week 12, or maybe take your last shot 12 days after the last test/EQ shot and start the nolva 3 days later. Point being to keep with the HCG and hold off on starting the nolva until the long esters clear.

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    Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    1. 250mgs of testosterone enanthate is useless
    2. just run 500mgs of testosterone...nix the EQ you dont need it for a first cycle. just more sides to deal with
    3. post cycle therapy is 4 weeks. 40/30/20/10. not 50/50
    4. HCG is used on cycle, not post cycle. that **** is old schoo. use 250IU twice a week and youll jump right back when you start PCT. HCG causes further supression if used post cycle.


    HCG can be used post cycle for a short period at lower doses.

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    ditto to rodja.. test-e 500mg per week pinned monday and thursday 250mg each day. 10-12 weeks. Stick with one compound for a 1st cycle so you know how your body reacts to it. with multiple compunds, you dont know what is doing what.

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