question about 4hydroxytestosterone.

**windwords7** · 07-06-2003 01:35 AM

Originally posted by jediclampet
I read that hydroxy test has anti-e properties. Have there been any reports on the associated risks for hair loss yet?

I have read no reports from any users that have complained of such.

**SteveDFW** · 07-07-2003 03:56 PM

What are the resuly, benefits, & sides of hydroxy test as compared to 4AD?

**maggmaster** · 07-07-2003 04:06 PM

no aromatization + anti estrogen qualities similar anabolic profile maybe slighly less.

**SteveDFW** · 07-07-2003 04:13 PM

what about sex drive enhancement as compared to 4AD?

**maggmaster** · 07-07-2003 04:23 PM

not sure probably similar

**intel55** · 07-08-2003 02:13 AM

So can I expect this LGP 1-T/HydroxyTest - 4g 1-Testosterone, 8g 4-AD, 3g Hydroxy-Testosterone to give me about 75%+ of the results of T-1 Pro??? I am two weeks away from a T-1 Pro cycle and this looked interesting.

**custom** · 07-08-2003 07:15 AM

I do not think that anyone is really qualified to say what kind of gains one could expect w/4-Test compared to 1-Test as it is simply too new. Given that it cannot convert to estrogen, and is already an active hormone, I do not think you could go wrong w/it in a transdermal mix.

**jediclampet** · 07-08-2003 08:40 AM

So would aggression or lethargy be a more likely side?

**windwords7** · 07-08-2003 09:18 AM

Originally posted by jediclampet
So would aggression or lethargy be a more likely side?

Lethargy should not be a side effect. All user reports that I have read have not complained about lethargy one time. In fact, just the opposite.

**curt2go** · 07-08-2003 10:44 AM

I like hormones that are already active before conversion.. heheheh Isn't thata steroid..

J/K .. TTY

**jweave23** · 07-08-2003 11:08 AM

Originally posted by custom
I do not think that anyone is really qualified to say what kind of gains one could expect w/4-Test compared to 1-Test as it is simply too new. Given that it cannot convert to estrogen, and is already an active hormone, I do not think you could go wrong w/it in a transdermal mix.

Agreed and well said IMO.

Anyone care to comment on PA's views at BB.com however?:

"4-hydroxy is not an intermediate for any AAS. It is not an intermediate for any anti-estrogens either, though it is a metabolite of formestane.

I know of no evidence that the 4-hydroxy increases affinity to the estrogen receptor. If it does then that would be a bad thing, not a good thing.

The compound is significantly weaker then testosterone as an anabolic. This is what the literature says. I do not know what literature you are referring to when you say its "very anabolic". Are you selling the stuff or something???

What do you mean there is "no special breakdown in the liver, there fore its a poor oral?" that sounds totally contradictory

All in all, this compound IMO holds very little promise"

here is the thread, anyone:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=142491

 

 

**maggmaster** · 07-08-2003 11:30 AM

Problem with this that is that with any "new" hormone there comes a period when people are trying to find the niche in which the hormone fits. People on animals board are saying its a strong anabolic comparable to eq which makes sense since in literature it is 70% as anabolic as test which is right around where eq is. Comparing it to a compound like trenbolone it looks like crap and its expensive but it has its uses, in a stack with test as a secondary anabolic, or as a standalone with few negative sides.

**legalgear.com** · 07-09-2003 11:08 AM

I think you are right on the money here magmaster. It probably isn't the best anabolic to use by itself if you are looking for massive gains. It would make a great stack though since it has no conversion side effects. The OH on the 4th position should provide roughly the same set of effects as both well know steroids Clostabol and Steranabol. Both of these molecules have been described by Big Cat as near perfect steroids from a side effect/potency ratio.

Again, maybe OH-Test will not impart the massive gains that one would see from Tren or Test, but it is legal, it is very safe and is effective. Also, I prefer the gains made by substances like EQ since I believe the slower gains are easier for your body to maintain long term. THat is just my theory. I think OH-Test has a lot of uses and I personally plan on maintaining a large stock of this item and OH-Nandralone when the ban goes through. I am 32 though and the thought of a seriously reduced risk steroid is very appealing. Ones thoughts tend to change as one gets older though...young people might want mass no matter the side effects like bloat and hairloss. I beleive this compound is vastly superior to 4-AD and *****s 1-Test in usefullness in a stack.

EDog

**curt2go** · 07-09-2003 12:57 PM

The oh-nandrolone.. Did someone actually make that already. i thought it was a concept that they might make... Do you have any info??? TTY

**curt2go** · 07-09-2003 12:58 PM

Hey does someone sell the Raw powder.. TTY

**canadaguy** · 07-09-2003 01:21 PM

I'm pretty sure that CSS has a product out already with OH-nandrolone. "TMM-100"

**maggmaster** · 07-09-2003 01:52 PM

im also fairly certain instynct will have it

**curt2go** · 07-09-2003 01:54 PM

Who is making the raws???? TTY

**maggmaster** · 07-09-2003 03:37 PM

china

**curt2go** · 07-09-2003 04:03 PM

hehehehe. Its always China but who has the raws here??? Is anyone selling them yet??? TTY

question about 4hydroxytestosterone.

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