question about 4hydroxytestosterone.

[canadaguy]

I frequent some of the other BB boards and have been reading about 4hydroxy test. This question is directed more towards curt2go: I know that there is a guy from Detroit who will be marketing a product with 1-t, 4-ad and 4hydroxytest., suspended in BDC's "ph gel". Will there be a new addition to BDC's line of products anytime in the near future?

 

[curt2go]

Therr is not enough info yet on the hydroxy test. As far as I know results are not good.. TTY

 

[windwords7]

Therr is not enough info yet on the hydroxy test. As far as I know results are not good.. TTY

There is nothing but good results from those who have used hydroxy test. Curt, I would like you to produce some back up for that statement as we can show over and over againg that people love their expierience on Hydroxy test.

BDC is producing the LG line so there will be no difference in that regard between the two.

 

[curt2go]

I need to get out more apparently or read some other places. When it first came out the results that I seen people had were not all it was cracked up to be.. I can't back it up. But if you can back it up that it works good then ; I stand corrected.. TTY

 

[windwords7]

Ive never seen the negative feedback you referring to I guess. Animals board is full of guys singing its praises as the best thing to come along in a long time. Just surprized me to see you say that as your is the only negative statement that I have seen. Not to mention Bill L's excitement about it says a lot as well.

 

[curt2go]

I guess I will have to do a little reading. TTY.. Thanx..

 

[windwords7]

I guess I will have to do a little reading. TTY.. Thanx..

Cool, now of course, if its not good then I want to know that but none of the user feedback had indicated it. Let me know what you find bro.

 

[curt2go]

Ok now it gets worse... I am officially a retard and should not be helping people out.. I was thinking of the cyclo-1-test.. I am stupid and sorry for any misinformation. I have heard nothing on the hydroxy test.... TTY

 

[windwords7]

LOL, I was wondering what you were reading! Cyclo 1Test was not so good from what I read too.

 

[canadaguy]

windwords, when you refer to Animal's board; most of the people over there are injecting 4hydroxytest are they not?

 

[windwords7]

windwords, when you refer to Animal's board; most of the people over there are injecting 4hydroxytest are they not?

Many over there are. Regardless the results are there and will be there regardless of how you get it into your blood stream.

 

[curt2go]

Who is selling the raw powder? TTY

 

[windwords7]

Who is selling the raw powder? TTY

We are selling it in bulk as well. Now as to where we are getting it I can not say.....

 

[canadaguy]

How pure is the powder?

 

[windwords7]

How pure is the powder?

It meets all the same standards as any other PH raw.

 

[curt2go]

man i wish someone would let me know this stuff. I don't see it in the member store?? Where is it... TTY

 

[windwords7]

man i wish someone would let me know this stuff. I don't see it in the member store?? Where is it... TTY

LOL Curt, you rock bro. Check your PM's.

 

[jweave23]

Originally posted by curt2go
Ok now it gets worse... I am officially a retard and should not be helping people out.. I was thinking of the cyclo-1-test.. I am stupid and sorry for any misinformation. I have heard nothing on the hydroxy test.... TTY

I agree and from now on I will post this any time I see you have typed something:

 

BTW no offense to Canadians, but I really can't pick on Curt about being an engineer now can I?

:shoot: :gore:

I may pin some of this stuff later in the fall or winter and give it a shot. Looks very promising for lean gains

 

[curt2go]

thanx man.. TTY

 

[jediclampet]

I read that hydroxy test has anti-e properties. Have there been any reports on the associated risks for hair loss yet?

 

[windwords7]

I read that hydroxy test has anti-e properties. Have there been any reports on the associated risks for hair loss yet?

I have read no reports from any users that have complained of such.

 

[SteveDFW]

What are the resuly, benefits, & sides of hydroxy test as compared to 4AD?

 

[maggmaster]

no aromatization + anti estrogen qualities similar anabolic profile maybe slighly less.

 

[SteveDFW]

what about sex drive enhancement as compared to 4AD?

 

[maggmaster]

not sure probably similar

 

[intel55]

So can I expect this LGP 1-T/HydroxyTest - 4g 1-Testosterone, 8g 4-AD, 3g Hydroxy-Testosterone to give me about 75%+ of the results of T-1 Pro??? I am two weeks away from a T-1 Pro cycle and this looked interesting.

 

[custom]

I do not think that anyone is really qualified to say what kind of gains one could expect w/4-Test compared to 1-Test as it is simply too new. Given that it cannot convert to estrogen, and is already an active hormone, I do not think you could go wrong w/it in a transdermal mix.

 

[jediclampet]

So would aggression or lethargy be a more likely side?

 

[windwords7]

So would aggression or lethargy be a more likely side?

Lethargy should not be a side effect. All user reports that I have read have not complained about lethargy one time. In fact, just the opposite.

 

[curt2go]

I like hormones that are already active before conversion.. heheheh Isn't thata steroid.. J/K .. TTY

 

[jweave23]

Originally posted by custom
I do not think that anyone is really qualified to say what kind of gains one could expect w/4-Test compared to 1-Test as it is simply too new. Given that it cannot convert to estrogen, and is already an active hormone, I do not think you could go wrong w/it in a transdermal mix.

Agreed and well said IMO. Anyone care to comment on PA's views at BB.com however?:

"4-hydroxy is not an intermediate for any AAS. It is not an intermediate for any anti-estrogens either, though it is a metabolite of formestane.

I know of no evidence that the 4-hydroxy increases affinity to the estrogen receptor. If it does then that would be a bad thing, not a good thing.

The compound is significantly weaker then testosterone as an anabolic. This is what the literature says. I do not know what literature you are referring to when you say its "very anabolic". Are you selling the stuff or something???

What do you mean there is "no special breakdown in the liver, there fore its a poor oral?" that sounds totally contradictory

All in all, this compound IMO holds very little promise"

here is the thread, anyone:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142491

 

 

 

[maggmaster]

Problem with this that is that with any "new" hormone there comes a period when people are trying to find the niche in which the hormone fits. People on animals board are saying its a strong anabolic comparable to eq which makes sense since in literature it is 70% as anabolic as test which is right around where eq is. Comparing it to a compound like trenbolone it looks like crap and its expensive but it has its uses, in a stack with test as a secondary anabolic, or as a standalone with few negative sides.

 

[legalgear.com]

I think you are right on the money here magmaster. It probably isn't the best anabolic to use by itself if you are looking for massive gains. It would make a great stack though since it has no conversion side effects. The OH on the 4th position should provide roughly the same set of effects as both well know steroids Clostabol and Steranabol. Both of these molecules have been described by Big Cat as near perfect steroids from a side effect/potency ratio.

Again, maybe OH-Test will not impart the massive gains that one would see from Tren or Test, but it is legal, it is very safe and is effective. Also, I prefer the gains made by substances like EQ since I believe the slower gains are easier for your body to maintain long term. THat is just my theory. I think OH-Test has a lot of uses and I personally plan on maintaining a large stock of this item and OH-Nandralone when the ban goes through. I am 32 though and the thought of a seriously reduced risk steroid is very appealing. Ones thoughts tend to change as one gets older though...young people might want mass no matter the side effects like bloat and hairloss. I beleive this compound is vastly superior to 4-AD and rivals 1-Test in usefullness in a stack.

EDog

 

[curt2go]

The oh-nandrolone.. Did someone actually make that already. i thought it was a concept that they might make... Do you have any info??? TTY

 

[curt2go]

Hey does someone sell the Raw powder.. TTY

 

[canadaguy]

I'm pretty sure that CSS has a product out already with OH-nandrolone. "TMM-100"

 

[maggmaster]

im also fairly certain instynct will have it

 

[curt2go]

Who is making the raws???? TTY

 

[maggmaster]

china

 

[curt2go]

hehehehe. Its always China but who has the raws here??? Is anyone selling them yet??? TTY

 

[Retired*now legalgear.com*]

Yeah,

Steranabol is OH-Nandrolone and there are powders out there with this compound in them. I don't know why this would be considered legal, but no one seems to have a problem. Steranabol is has good activity and so does Clostebol with a Cl at the 4th position instead of a OH, but they should have the same activities.

We have the raw OH-Test powder coming in. As I said, this is a cool compound IMHO.

EDog

 

[curt2go]

You will be selling the raws???? of both OH's .. TTY

 

[windwords7]

You will be selling the raws???? of both OH's .. TTY

Yes Curt, we already of OH Test on the website available for preorder.

 

[curt2go]

heheheh.. Did you just redo your website.. I guess its an ongoing thing.. But last time I was there you did not show it....

NO one has ever answered my question on dosages yet.. What were the dosages that were being injected on animals board??? This will give us some idea at what dosage to use it in a topical.... Let me know.. TTY

 

[curt2go]

Will you guys be carrying the methy 1-test if it comes out???? TTY

 

[maggmaster]

i think guys were doing 100 mg a day and up but I am not sure

 

[Retired*now legalgear.com*]

I thought they were doing 75mg a day (about 1 cc).

EDog

 

[SteveDFW]

what recipe are people using to convert to oil?

 

[canadaguy]

Most probably one of "Animal's" kits

 

[SteveDFW]

I was looking for as non-kit recipe (i.e. %BA, %BB, etc...)