This seems about right. I'm using Propadrol for a clean bulk right now and I could see using it for a cut. But I would never expect a lot of mass with it. Good luck!
So is Revolt. So is Phera-Plex.
Phera is not a progestin, it's an androstane...it's desoxymethyltestosterone! Progestins are estra/19-nor based (and apparently "gona" is progestin related as well...probably some older obsolete term that is used in a similar fashion as to how Gaspari used older terms for halodrol's nomenclature).
Maybe I was smoking crack recently? :think:
You work for my buddy Keith dontcha??
**** happens, lol! Propadrol and Revolt have similar nomenclature, but are not the same ingredient. Yeah, they are both progestins, but look at as comparing Tren to Deca (also both progestins).
Mabey RA will chime in for you...he seems to have a pretty good grasp on this sort of stuff.
hmm why bp supps? I would think that the bloat means increased water retention which wouldn't raise bp...
Nope...I understand your logic and previously thought the same thing...BUT...Bloat/water retention can cause high bp. I believe it's one of the reasons salt is said to raise blood pressure (b/c it causes water retention). Water retention is not the same thing as water consumption. It's weird, but if you look into and understand the actions at work you'll find that in many cases increased water consumption can help reduce bloat :think:
Well avoiding most or close to all salt intake should keep the bp area at bay, but still have some celery seed in stock.
the pal transformation contest ends oct 22nd. My normal bp is normal, around 120/75. I'll be taking cycle support too which should help.
Yeah, I had a brain fart and immediately edited my post after making the original (still cloudy from celebrating the wife's b-day last night).
Cycle support will help, since you get the best of both worlds in hawthorn and celery seed.Well, I'll probably start that last week of october
Lol, its all good. It happens to everyone.
For sure, i'm perpetually logging
I'm sort of expecting around 15-20lbs mass gain, maybe 12-15 after pct. What I'm really hoping is that the reported superfast workout recovery also works out for me. I'll be doing GVT, and if recovery is as wicked as everyone says I'll be doing super heavy plyometric calisthenics on off days
15-20 sounds pretty realistic to me, at least in my mind it is.For sure, i'm perpetually logging
I take around 10g workout days as it is, 5g preworkout 5g post. It sucks getting old. Thats a large part of taking revolt to begin with, relatively "light" sides for its size gains, plus being wet so doesn't cause as much potential joint issues. I've got arthritis so thats important. And the epi is to help avoid any estrogen issues, even tho in theory revolt is non aromatizable. Too i'm going to be doing just dermacrine sustain as PCT with 2g of resveratrol a day during cycle, so I may do even better on keeping gains, as I won't face some of the issues of nolva or the other serms.
Yeah, sorry about the jacking too.
On gvt with leviathan + incarnate and 30g + of fish oils a day i gained 8lbs in 10 days. nothing hormonal. So with hormones, I can only guess really. I started doing the massive fish oils the last week of august, but between travelleing for work 2 weeks since then, I haven't been able to keep my diet where it should be or workouts, so the fact that i'm at 208 today from 198 then is pretty impressive on fish oil alone (and keeping bf)
dang, sorry about the hijack
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