Well, first week into my tren only cycle, 40mgs ED for 8 weeks and planning on incorporating 4AD into the cycle (T4 gel) but my question is.....WHEN and HOW LONG? I figure the T4 will be 6 weeks worth at 6ml's ED, so I heard if you are on tren and add a form of test, run it 2-4 weeks over the tren so HPTA is a "little less" shut down?? is this a good idea or does it not make sense? I guess the purpose for the extended use is while the tren is discontinued you will slightly recover from the time ur still running the test or 4AD? Maybe you guys can lead me in the best path of how to run the 4AD, thanks boys.