Superdrol a dht derivative??

[TripDog]

i read this on a few random websites...I don't understand how something with a low androgenic profile can deliver such a rapid increase in strength?? and if it's a dht deriv does something like finisteride have any neg effect on it(like how finasteride makes hairloss worse with deca)....

 

[Tom 185]

i read this on a few random websites...I don't understand how something with a low androgenic profile can deliver such a rapid increase in strength?? and if it's a dht deriv does something like finisteride have any neg effect on it(like how finasteride makes hairloss worse with deca)....

great point. i was on finasteride when i took superdrol and i think i noticed an increase in shedding...however, its hard to say that its completely from the superdrol...

 

[TripDog]

buMp.......anyone know?

 

[Xodus]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=65437363&postcount=7


That post/thread may help some.


What's weird is that I had no hairloss issues with SD. I did with JW and Epi though.

 

[macedaddy]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=65437363&postcount=7


That post/thread may help some.


What's weird is that I had no hairloss issues with SD. I did with JW and Epi though.

how high a dose did you use of epi? I don't get the hair issues with epi till i go over 40mg

 

[Xodus]

how high a dose did you use of epi? I don't get the hair issues with epi till i go over 40mg

40mg @ 5 weeks.

 

[Rodja]

SD is a hybrid of Anadrol and Masteron.

 

[jasonschaffin]

Superdrol is 5a reduced, just like DHT. It has a 2a methyl just like masteron (2a methyl DHT). Its also has a 17a methyl group increasing the bioavailability. So basically it is 2a, 17a dimethyl DHT. The two methyl groups change the shape of the molecule, thus changing the binding of the molecule and the properties of the molecule.

(don't quote me, I'm no chemist)

 

[TripDog]

Superdrol is 5a reduced, just like DHT. It has a 2a methyl just like masteron (2a methyl DHT). Its also has a 17a methyl group increasing the bioavailability. So basically it is 2a, 17a dimethyl DHT. The two methyl groups change the shape of the molecule, thus changing the binding of the molecule and the properties of the molecule.

(don't quote me, I'm no chemist)

hmmmmm, sounds good to me.

 

[Rodja]

Superdrol is 5a reduced, just like DHT. It has a 2a methyl just like masteron (2a methyl DHT). Its also has a 17a methyl group increasing the bioavailability. So basically it is 2a, 17a dimethyl DHT. The two methyl groups change the shape of the molecule, thus changing the binding of the molecule and the properties of the molecule.

(don't quote me, I'm no chemist)

I think it is the di-methylization that increases it's hepatoxicity as well.

 

[TripDog]

I think it is the di-methylization that increases it's hepatoxicity as well.

No it actually doesn't from what I heard.

 

[rpen22]

Straight from Anabolics 2007:

Methyldrostanolone is a modified form of dihydrotestosterone. It differs by: 1) the addition of a methyl group at carbon 17-alpha, which helps protect the hormone during oral administration, and 2) the introduction of a methyl group at carbon-2(alpha), which considerably increases the anabolic strength of the steroid by heightening its resistance to metabolism by the 3-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme in skeletal muscle tissue.

 

[theface]

Woah, so what is the consensus here?!?

 

[TripDog]

Woah, so what is the consensus here?!?

good question...

 

[SeanyK]

don't quote me but i do recall reading in a number of places that 5ar inhibitors have no effect whatsoever on 5a-reduced steroids; i.e DHT derivatives like sd, masteron, pplex, and the majority of the DS market. the hormones themself are alread 5alpha reduced, and inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride just dont accomplish sh*t and serve no purpose because of that fact.

once again... dont flame me up if im wrong but i'm pretty sure this is right

 

[pmo83]

I didn't think Superdrol had a "low" androgenic component. Its certainly very highly anabolic which can overpower the androgenic effects. And it is certainly a DHT derived steroid, in fact one of the closest to DHT apart from Masteron, M-DHT and 5AA.

I haven't heard of this 5AR-inhibitors INCREASING hair loss on deca? Is the 5-AR form of nandralone less androgenic than the standard molecule?

 

[brockles]

I didn't think Superdrol had a "low" androgenic component. Its certainly very highly anabolic which can overpower the androgenic effects. And it is certainly a DHT derived steroid, in fact one of the closest to DHT apart from Masteron, M-DHT and 5AA.

I haven't heard of this 5AR-inhibitors INCREASING hair loss on deca? Is the 5-AR form of nandralone less androgenic than the standard molecule?

It has an A:A ratio of 400:20 which is where the low androgenic bit comes from but it is still very androgenic.

 

[nateo1979]

don't quote me but i do recall reading in a number of places that 5ar inhibitors have no effect whatsoever on 5a-reduced steroids; i.e DHT derivatives like sd, masteron, pplex, and the majority of the DS market. the hormones themself are alread 5alpha reduced, and inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride just dont accomplish sh*t and serve no purpose because of that fact.

once again... dont flame me up if im wrong but i'm pretty sure this is right

u are completely right finasteride/propecia has no effect on dht derivative steroids (5a-reduced) winstrol, anavar, sd, masteron, pplex, epi, etc. finasteride will really only help with test, sus, and possibly dbol

 

[TripDog]

It has an A:A ratio of 400:20 which is where the low androgenic bit comes from but it is still very androgenic.

I heard somewhere that it's binding affinity is rather strong, making it more androgenic than the listed 20.