Epistane and 1-Test stack
- 06-05-2007, 04:33 PM
- 06-05-2007, 08:00 PM
- 06-06-2007, 09:25 AM
*hearing only faint sound of crickets chirping...*
Doesn't anyone have an opinion on this?
06-07-2007, 10:12 AM
Not even ONE response??
Is this a really stupid question or something?
I did do a search for Epistane with 1-Test and didn't find much.
06-10-2007, 03:15 PM
06-10-2007, 03:30 PM
Yes, it's a kick ass stack, as good if not better than epi/test.
06-10-2007, 05:57 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. Sounds like this would be worth exploring. I am doing Epi right now, about a 1.5 weeks into it. Not noticing anything dramatic yet. I assume it will take a bit longer?
I'm 250lbs and doing 30mg/day. Is this enough for my size? Also, I am a powerlifter, so am looking for strength gains primarily. Thanks!
06-10-2007, 06:29 PM
06-10-2007, 07:12 PM
I agree with SS, the difference between 30 and 50 is like night and day. At 30 you can feel it and do alright for sure. It's enough to fight gyno and recomp well, but at 40-50 my lifts start moving up with every single workout! Also, pulsing with 60 is very nice.
06-10-2007, 07:23 PM
How dry would this stack be? I would think that it would be an awesome stack for a sick recomp.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
06-10-2007, 09:22 PM
06-10-2007, 09:53 PM
Hmmm... Sounds like I'll be bumping it up a bit and see what happens. Thanks again guys!
06-10-2007, 09:57 PM
06-17-2007, 01:19 AM
06-17-2007, 01:20 AM
06-17-2007, 06:27 PM
06-19-2007, 12:34 PM
Guys I also have a question about lethargy with the 1-test/epi stack. I started the epi @ 30mg about 3 wks ago and added the 1-test about a week ago. I bumped the epi up to 40mg and also the 1-test to 4 caps/day. The last few days I have had severe lethargy. Getting good sleep, but I can barely keep my eyes open at work, keep stretching and yawning. I don't feel like training at all.
I have an old bottle of 4AD and I heard it can combat 1-T's lethargy, so I knocked the dose of 1-T down to 3 caps and am taking each dose with one cap of 4AD. After two days, I'm still lethargic as hell. Is this all due to the 1-T, and is there anything else I can do? Should I continue with the 4AD?
06-19-2007, 12:36 PM
1T can drag you down big time. How much 4AD do you have?
M.Ed. Ex Phys
06-19-2007, 12:49 PM
I have part of a bottle, maybe 20-30 caps already open and I have at least one whole new bottle, plus some bulk powder, but right now I don't have any transdermal carrier for the powder.
06-19-2007, 12:51 PM
It's funny 'cuz I've used the 1-TU before and never had noticable lethargy issues. Maybe it's because I went up to 4 caps/day... I've never used that much before. I've also never stacked with epi, so didn't know how that would affect lethargy.
06-19-2007, 01:19 PM
I would say to shoot for 1g/day of 4AD and go ahead and order some penetrate so you save a ton of powder for future cycles.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
06-19-2007, 01:34 PM
06-19-2007, 01:40 PM
06-19-2007, 03:24 PM
Yeah definitly get some penetrate asap. ~600mg trans 4ad/day should make you feel much better. In the meantime, 1g orally is the way to go.
06-19-2007, 04:11 PM
Thanks again guys. I have some transdermal on order now.
Just curious... Can the capsules be dissolved in a transdermal and used that way, or just the bulk powder? Are they the same?
The only TD I've used in the past is E-Form from Bulk Nutrition. I bought the 4AD powder (while it was still available otc), but never used it.
06-23-2007, 09:21 PM
06-24-2007, 06:31 PM
06-25-2007, 12:36 PM
06-29-2007, 11:12 PM
Start - stack
Started with 10mg, will ramp up to 30 and stay at that dosage. Thinking of stacking and would assume that something aromatizing would be he smartest. I have a C-17 that I can go with in the form of mestanolone.
06-29-2007, 11:18 PM
06-29-2007, 11:20 PM
06-30-2007, 01:20 PM
This morning I tried a transdermal boldenone (equivalaent of 20mg) along with my second dose of Epistane which was 20mg. I also had my preworkout stim which was 200mg of oral B12, Chocamine, 5-HTP, Tyrosine, Rhodiola and Thiamine along with my old oil mix of Fish Oils, R-ALA and EFAs. No carbs taken before the workout.
I felt very energized and stronger for power lifts and power runs/plyos and I have to say that this feeling lasted for a full 3 hours after the 2 hour workout. It was very intense at the 3 hour mark, more so that any other time. My question would be if an aromatizing such as Bold is better than a C-17 in this case.
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