12mgs?! I wouldnt go recommending that dosage to anybody! From all the feedback ive gotten annd stuff ive read (not experienced, yet!) is that dosages range around 4-6mgs MAX. 6mgs tends to be the threshold for bad sides. Possibly 8mgs would be "doable" if your a larger guy and/or pulsing.
how were the sides on that stack? Ive heard tst is a good combo. EDIT: NM.
sides
back pumps - not bad at all with the use of creatine for water retention.
dehydration - water and again creatine.
acne - actually acne turned into more of an issue with ingrown hairs, leaving behind slight scarring, but nothing bad.
aggression - im the nicest guy on the planet and it was safe to say I was definetley not the nicest guy on that high a dose, however if you mentally control the rage you dont turn green.
blood pressure - mass dosing hawthorn is key. 135/75/72pulse average, and I smoke!
lethargy - non existent. maybe after an intense workout id take a nap..
joints - only an issue toward the end of the cycle, starting making cracking and popping noises, thats where I stopped. Didnt wanna do something permanent.
bear in mind im also 6'7'' and 246lbs with about 8% body fat. So Im not a little guy either... I dont recco this dose unless people are well over 6'4'' and have substantial experience with phs.