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    Dianabol / Test Prop / Tren Ace


    Building a cycle...worried about shutdown with tren, so i wan't to run this cycle in the most effective way of avoiding shutdown when i come off...i'm not sure if it would be any better to end it earlier than the test prop? or should i just come off them both at the same time?


    10mL Finaplex Trenbolone Acetate (100mg/mL)
    50mL Testosterone Propionate (100mg/mL)
    100 tabs of Dianabol (25mg per tab)
    2000mcg IGF-1LR3
    T3 or T4

    This is my first time using prop and tren. i've used enanthate several times and sustanon. i've used dianabol once before at 20-35mg. i used igf-1lr3 at 30/30mcg (4x per week) in my last pct.

    Rough cycle outline...
    1-5 Dianabol at 25mg-37.5mg
    1-8 Test Prop at 180mg EOD
    1-6 or 3-8 Tren Ace at 50mg EOD
    1-8 T4 50/100/150/200
    1 week of igf-1lr3 pre-cycle and weeks 1-3 for a total of 4 weeks at 40/40mcg (3x per week)

    Post Cycle Therapy
    9-10 Clomid
    11-13 Nolva
    9-12 MassFX & HyperdrolX2
    9-12 IGF-1lr3 at 40/40mcg (3x per week)

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    hcg on cycle and right before pct is the best bet for handling to much shutdown. Dont run the tren week 8 either.
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    I like PP's suggestions...

    Tren week 1-6 sounds nice.
    I'm not too familiar with T4, personally.
    But they way you are running IGF-1 seems perfect. Anabolics should help the new baby cells turn into big butch cells...

    Seems well thought/planned out. Best of luck.
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    i hope you have more than just 10ml of tren acetate....youll need more, and yes like PI said, run it weeks 1-6
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    i can't get hcg or else i'd definitely be using it with every cycle...

    so with that aside, i'll run the tren 1-6 or 2-7?

    i can get another bottle but i only got 10mL because i only want to run 50mg every other day...i know most people start at 75mg eod but i want to be extra cautious my first time around...thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom 185 View Post
    i can't get hcg or else i'd definitely be using it with every cycle...

    so with that aside, i'll run the tren 1-6 or 2-7?

    i can get another bottle but i only got 10mL because i only want to run 50mg every other day...i know most people start at 75mg eod but i want to be extra cautious my first time around...thoughts?
    that sucks you cant get hcg, just run an aggressive pct, maybe keep some cialis on hand. Proviron would be a nice addition to the cycle. Run the tren from the start imo.

    With 10ml @ 50mg eod doesnt that mean you can only run 5 weeks, provided you dont account for the waste factor? I think 50mg eod is a good starting dose.

    Im wondering what you think you will be dosing the clomid and nolva like...
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    Without the waste factor it would be 5-6 weeks...

    I would run it 1-6...

    HCG is pretty easily found. You sure you looked hard enough?
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    i definitely have no options for hcg unless someone pm's me...

    i will start at the beginning of the cycle and just run 50mg eod until it runs out...even if it comes out a few days short with the waste factor...

    i like the suggestion of cialis....i've been considering cialis or viagra for the few weeks following my cycles, since i'm usually shut down pretty bad...

    the clomid/nolva dosages are as follows

    1- 150mg clomid
    2- 100mg clomid
    3- 60mg nolva
    4- 40mg nolva
    5- 20mg nolva

    this is the same pct protocol i used in my previous cycle..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom 185 View Post
    i definitely have no options for hcg unless someone pm's me...

    i will start at the beginning of the cycle and just run 50mg eod until it runs out...even if it comes out a few days short with the waste factor...

    i like the suggestion of cialis....i've been considering cialis or viagra for the few weeks following my cycles, since i'm usually shut down pretty bad...

    the clomid/nolva dosages are as follows

    1- 150mg clomid
    2- 100mg clomid
    3- 60mg nolva
    4- 40mg nolva
    5- 20mg nolva

    this is the same post cycle therapy protocol i used in my previous cycle..

    good stuff. I think its wise how you will run the tren, even if its not really crazy like everyone says at least you can see how you react at a reasonably low dose.

    would you see any benefiet in 10mg nolva for week 6? I have done that before ( tapering nolva down 10mg each week all the way down to 10mg then zero) I dont see many people do that but i thought it was a good idea once upon a time.

    def. get some sex aid and i think prescription ones are the best bet. dont waste time with the other stuff. although i will let you know how aspire36 goes....
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    I don't think tapering down to 10mg is really necessary for me

    i'm going to pick up another 10ml of 100mg/ml tren acetate and bump the dosage to 60mg EOD to start...
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    i preferd running the TREN in the middle of the cycle. kinda help lean the gains. i ran Test E@ 15ks 500mgswk.with Tren Ace @ 6wks @ 25mg ED. started the tren on 4wk. had real nice lean gains.went from a 173solid to 188 lean solid mass.been off for 4wks. still holdin 184 solid. ppl think i weight more than i do =] but ya bro. i like that stack. i may try that for my next cycle =]
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    have you used t4 before? do you like it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    have you used t4 before? do you like it?
    i have. i liked it. ran it 10 weeks at the backend of a 16 week cycle. ran low dosages but it worked well as an ectomorph
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    thats a real low dose of tren buddy.
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    i agree with the goat ****er

    thats a pretty low dose of tren. you really are going to have to use 75mg eod to make it worth it.

    also, the acetate ester is dunzo in 36 hours.....its fine for EOD use, especially with higher doses, but ED is optimal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    i agree with the goat ****er

    thats a pretty low dose of tren. you really are going to have to use 75mg eod to make it worth it.

    also, the acetate ester is dunzo in 36 hours.....its fine for EOD use, especially with higher doses, but ED is optimal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad View Post
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    ill take the one in the middle she's hot! I would pull her ears and start a new trend, replacing the position of doggystyle with goatstyle, one leg in the air and all!


    As far as the tren dose....I think he's doing a good thing with starting at 50mg, just see if you make gains or what sides come, if its all good bump it up.
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    yea i said 50mg orginally but i chaged it to 60mg eod...maybe i'll do 30mg ed
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    my source ran out of dbol...i'm scheduled to get the test and tren in the next few days...

    i want to add something else along with the prop/tren...i was thinking superdrol or epistane?
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    You shoudl start seeing result in 5 days...I dont think theres really a reason to add more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    You shoudl start seeing result in 5 days...I dont think theres really a reason to add more.
    yea cause remember ill be using igf-1 and t-4 as well...im thinking of just keeping the aas to test/tren also...
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    Those new little cells are going to turn into monster cells in no time.
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    just an update...

    i started the prop/tren yesterday

    i'm doing 90mg prop and 30mg tren ED

    i may bump the tren to 40mg after the first 2 weeks depending on how it goes...
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    nice. i think its good you are starting low on the doses, you never know it might be enough for you and you can always up it.
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    I need some help with syringe loading...i am loading the prop and tren into the same syringe...after i load the tren, its hard to keep the bubbles to a minimum while loading the prop 2nd, making the measurement less acurate...any advice on how to reduce this?

    in the past, it was easy to just flick the syringe to get the bubbles out when only loading one type of gear
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    After loading your pin draw the plunger all the way out to fill with even more air.Then put your pin in a horizontal positionand flick til the air bubble is gone except for the large one at the top of the pin.then slowly bring the pin to a verticle position (nedle upright) then flick as needed.

    It also helps if the oil is warm.Good luck.

    Ive put quite a few air bubbles into me and Im still OK if thats any consolation


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    how much cc of each are you drawing?

    the rule i go by is i inject air in the vial equal to the amount of gear being drawn. so this is an example:

    1cc of air into prop vial.
    draw 1cc prop.
    draw back .6cc air into syringe
    inject .5cc of air into tren vial.
    draw .5cc tren
    the extra .1cc will leave a buffer so the prop doesnt get into the tren.
    then just flick and pushout extra air.

    this is just off the top of my head trying to imagine, its been awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    how much cc of each are you drawing?

    the rule i go by is i inject air in the vial equal to the amount of gear being drawn. so this is an example:

    1cc of air into prop vial.
    draw 1cc prop.
    draw back .6cc air into syringe
    inject .5cc of air into tren vial.
    draw .5cc tren
    the extra .1cc will leave a buffer so the prop doesnt get into the tren.
    then just flick and pushout extra air.

    this is just off the top of my head trying to imagine, its been awhile.

    why wouldnt u want the prop and tren to mix?

    i am drawing .3cc of tren and .9cc of prop....1.2cc total
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    You wouldn't want it ot mix in the vial, then future dosing would be off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    You wouldn't want it ot mix in the vial, then future dosing would be off.
    exactly, you would throw off the concentration of tren. so if you drew .5cc you wouldnt know if that was actually .3 or .4cc.

    its really quite easy.

    let us know if youre still having probs...
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    well that was much easier........

    no visible sides yet exact maybe some tren cough...not sure if its related or not...no night sweats...

    going to bump to 40mg tren ED & 100mg prop ED
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    no night sweats? you lucky gal
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    heh yea but i just played a pick-up game of hockey tonight and goddddddd i was short of breath

    also, +4 pounds in 4 days and i feel great
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    do you get the cough after injecting? i always thought that was a lil odd with tren. Ill find out by the end of the year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    no night sweats? you lucky gal
    yea this seems to be the most common side effect that i hear of along with hair loss and acne...i'm only 5 days in so i guess its still a little soon to tell
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    do you get the cough after injecting? i always thought that was a lil odd with tren. Ill find out by the end of the year!
    nah..i'm coughing lightly 2-3 times an hour throughout the day
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    I'm on 75mg ED and no cough no sweat, it's almost weird.
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